cheers man!
will try to find somewhere in the UK to source something like that...good stuff!
SRB
Hi
I have 3 CW cards, and to get my SRB in my latest PC (on which I had already changed the 'MoBo' once) I had to hack a bit off the metal chassis at the back... that's a saw on a DAW...
All works fine now, although we seem to be retro fitting super fast PCs to run these old cards... what fun.
I think resale is very bad for CW cards, software is almost free (as in, included with 2nd user cards).
Maybe get an old PC, fit the SRB and a Luna to imput/output, run it off there via midi/digital spdif.
But then it all gets complicated with card registered synths etc...
Isn't this tech and mech stuff part of the fun?
I have 3 CW cards, and to get my SRB in my latest PC (on which I had already changed the 'MoBo' once) I had to hack a bit off the metal chassis at the back... that's a saw on a DAW...
All works fine now, although we seem to be retro fitting super fast PCs to run these old cards... what fun.
I think resale is very bad for CW cards, software is almost free (as in, included with 2nd user cards).
Maybe get an old PC, fit the SRB and a Luna to imput/output, run it off there via midi/digital spdif.
But then it all gets complicated with card registered synths etc...
Isn't this tech and mech stuff part of the fun?
Mmm, I didn't have to "retrofit" my super fast PC (AMD64 3000+) to make my cards fit in it.On 2005-07-25 07:48, geoffd99 wrote:
All works fine now, although we seem to be retro fitting super fast PCs to run these old cards... what fun.
Try shopping for a proper case next time you build a DAW, it'll save you some headaches. It's really not a special feature of newer cases and motherboards to be built like crap, there's plenty of older cases and motherboards that have/had stupidly-placed components that prevent some cards (not only old cards, not only CW cards) to be placed in certain slots.
Yes, I bought the SRB after the new PC and case, I didn't check the length of the SRB. The other 2 cards fitted fine. Hacking the case to bits was *fun*.
(I also think that what people moan about, is what they subconsciously love - so enjoy this weird CW situation while it lasts. Like when a Guru slags you off here for dozy comments, it is because they want to spank you - so English ;-o)
Back to topic:
My CW system works great now, I can leave a little spare dsp which seems to help (out of the 23 total), rather than loading up things until it gets stuck or has problems. (Same as when using native vst I suppose, always leave some spare capacity for peaks etc).
I have been trying to figure out a portable solution, however now I just record the sounds and use Ableton Live running audio loops on a laptop with an M-Audio interface.
I think one of the issues with the idea of a portable CW setup is synth and fx registration - if CW software was used mainly on a destop PC, then occasionally used on an external box, double fees would be due (yes I know this is normal for other software).
This makes it costly, unless all the CW cards are on a separate box - as discussed hereabouts.
It still seems that an old PC is fine, with a TFT screen and mini keyboard/mouse. This is the same as a 'special' plug in box. If each PC (main studio one, and 'on the road' one) had Pulsar cards with ADAT, they could be linked easily at home. Perhaps a bit delicate though.
BTW Ableton allow 2 registrations with 1 purchase for desktop and laptop as they know this is how people work.
(I also think that what people moan about, is what they subconsciously love - so enjoy this weird CW situation while it lasts. Like when a Guru slags you off here for dozy comments, it is because they want to spank you - so English ;-o)
Back to topic:
My CW system works great now, I can leave a little spare dsp which seems to help (out of the 23 total), rather than loading up things until it gets stuck or has problems. (Same as when using native vst I suppose, always leave some spare capacity for peaks etc).
I have been trying to figure out a portable solution, however now I just record the sounds and use Ableton Live running audio loops on a laptop with an M-Audio interface.
I think one of the issues with the idea of a portable CW setup is synth and fx registration - if CW software was used mainly on a destop PC, then occasionally used on an external box, double fees would be due (yes I know this is normal for other software).
This makes it costly, unless all the CW cards are on a separate box - as discussed hereabouts.
It still seems that an old PC is fine, with a TFT screen and mini keyboard/mouse. This is the same as a 'special' plug in box. If each PC (main studio one, and 'on the road' one) had Pulsar cards with ADAT, they could be linked easily at home. Perhaps a bit delicate though.
BTW Ableton allow 2 registrations with 1 purchase for desktop and laptop as they know this is how people work.
The PCI only boxes are quite expensive - more than a PC I think, certainly an old one.
I don't want to use midi live anyway (even internally with VSTis), it is 'safer' to use samples of riffs, chords etc, then use effects for tweaking.
Not that I have done it much.
Could also play live, rather than do midi sequencing live, if you see what I mean, I suppose that is what the new ABS synths are for (or any other synth or rack).
I am not into these laptop only gigs, they look a bit boring. Why not just play back a recording and stand at the bar?
I am about to start a new band type project, I will put some links up in a few weeks (or months).
I don't want to use midi live anyway (even internally with VSTis), it is 'safer' to use samples of riffs, chords etc, then use effects for tweaking.
Not that I have done it much.
Could also play live, rather than do midi sequencing live, if you see what I mean, I suppose that is what the new ABS synths are for (or any other synth or rack).
I am not into these laptop only gigs, they look a bit boring. Why not just play back a recording and stand at the bar?
I am about to start a new band type project, I will put some links up in a few weeks (or months).
the pain with 19" PC servers is that the 'old' ones are too bulky and weigh a ton, while 'modern' versions are too tiny (need complicated riser card constructions) and have fans to drive a church organ inside...
yet a PIII/1GHZ is perfectly ok for a Scope setup and with proper chipset (BX or 815) can even handle the more demanding reverbs, at least one instance (to stay on the safe side).
those are cheap and develope only few heat, so it's worth considering - one looses at max a 100 bucks if it fails (which I doubt).
someone mentioned a PCI solid state disk (max 4 GB by Gigabyte) in another thread - with a stripped down OS version (98lite, XPLite, LitePC) it can take the complete Scope setup and should reboot (worst case scenario) in less than 20 seconds.
cheers, Tom
yet a PIII/1GHZ is perfectly ok for a Scope setup and with proper chipset (BX or 815) can even handle the more demanding reverbs, at least one instance (to stay on the safe side).
those are cheap and develope only few heat, so it's worth considering - one looses at max a 100 bucks if it fails (which I doubt).
someone mentioned a PCI solid state disk (max 4 GB by Gigabyte) in another thread - with a stripped down OS version (98lite, XPLite, LitePC) it can take the complete Scope setup and should reboot (worst case scenario) in less than 20 seconds.
cheers, Tom
