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Counterparts · Post by **Counterparts** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:12 am

garyb wrote:
the brazillian was wearing a windbreaker, not a puffy coat and when he was shot, he was point blank with the shooters, this was in official reports(the news said heavy coat and running).

It's hard to get a clear picture...

washington post: The man who emerged Friday morning was wearing a padded, blue-fleeced jacked

Ise.co.uk: The coat he was using was a jean [denim] jacket. It wasn't a bulky jacket

rediff.com: and was wearing a heavy padded coat

softpedia: and wearing a heavy jacket

foxnews: Witnesses said he was wearing a heavy padded coat

So, heavy padded coat or denim jacket?

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:17 am

Any notions of truth are now meaningless, anything can be drowned in disinformation.

Post by **garyb** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:58 am

On 2005-08-08 02:54, Counterparts wrote:
garyb wrote:
the computers that run it are not as sophisicated as a gameboy. the russians are worse, they use vacuum tubes and hand valves....).
There's a good technical reason for this; modern processors simply aren't "rugged" enough to cope with the physical demands/radiation etc. which are encountered in a space mission. I believe that the 8086 is used in the space shuttle.

Royston

not exactly...
the computer in the shuttle was state of the art when it was built....as for vacuum tubes, the russians had no other choice. there was an embargo of ic technology which is only just being lifted....

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:07 am

I heard that even though it's old, they find it to be rock solid, and it's too risky to change it. I believe they've had the same development team since the project began.

Post by **garyb** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:24 am

true enough.
my only point was that it's crazy behavior. calculated, but crazy. it's really amazing in fact, how much crazy behavior has come out of europe and her colonies in the last xx years.....

to add to it Counterparts, the police at one point said it was a windbreaker. at any rate, london is full of "foreigners" like any big international city. a man in ANY coat running through a train station is not suspicious! our leaders' motives, however, are. there does not seem to be much real effort given to actually SOLVING these problems, just a lot of posturing. i don't care what the ideologies say, except for the .0005% of humanity that is truly evil and has no love at all and only wants to be on top, everybody really wants the same things in life. the solution is not that far away..

at least it's interesting, though.....

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:25 am

The OS (or one of them eh) used aboard: http://www.qnx.com/

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:34 am

Gary - absolutely.. IMHO human beings need to free themselves from the tentacles of the system, that's the only way we can survive.

For example, when did we get these crazy notions that our leaders represent our best interests and no-one should ever question that?

Capitalist systems are built upon a huge body of have-nots and a small number of obscenely wealthy. The middle classes are a 'buffer zone' in many ways. There is so much f**ked up s**t that comes out of this system it's not funny. A friend of mine did a thesis on the relationship between paedophilia and capitalist systems. The findings were depressing... the atmosphere of untouchability surrounding judges, politicians, police, priests etc is so ingrained and unbreakable, that they can do anything they want to make people suffer for their own pleasure and they'll get away with it.

Also, the urge to enslave must stop.

What is the urge to enslave? Well, IMHO it springs out of laziness. If you can't be bothered to do something (say, like cleaning your toilet bowl), then it's easier to hire someone else to do it. But no-one is going to do it unless they really really need the money. So you create a situation where people will do anything for a pissing amount of cash. It makes the world go round...

Incidentally, you may think this stuff sounds simplistic or idealistic, but my point is that it comes down to selfishness, however you dress it up.

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Post by **hubird** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:29 pm

still i don't know a better political system (for political change) than a multi party democracy...on national country level that is

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Post by **garyb** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:19 pm

who needs political change? decency will do.