study the B2003 ?!

bosone · Post by **bosone** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:27 am

now that i have B2003, i'd like to listen to some fine hammond player, just to konw which is the "best" way to use this instrument...

i know only emerson lake and palmer...

can you suggest some great song/artist which uses the hammond?

thanks!

pseudojazzer · Post by **pseudojazzer** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:06 am

Some funky soul brothers of the mighty organ include Jimmy Smith, Jimmy McGriff and brother Jack McDuff - check out anything by them... and get the boogie on!

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:30 am

Matteo, if you like the Hammond, you might want to keep an eye on used home organs, like the small Yamaha Electone HC models.

They have 2 keyboards and bass pedal on 3 midi channels and allow an 'organ style' play, which can make quite a difference.
Available for less than 100 Euro sometimes, as you usually have to pick them up. They are pretty light and you can easily remove the bottom part for transport.

cheers, tom

Nebukadneser · Post by **Nebukadneser** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:33 am

Try Joey DeFrancesco
He has recorded some incredible organ / piano duets with the amazing jazz pianist Michel Petrucciani.

Neb

alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:39 am

I'd check also Jon Lord with the Deep Purple, expecially in "Fireball" and "Machine Head". "Machine Head" is still the best example for rock organ of all times, i.m.h.o.

Bifop · Post by **Bifop** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:03 am

On 2005-12-05 04:33, Nebukadneser wrote:
Try Joey DeFrancesco
He has recorded some incredible organ / piano duets with the amazing jazz pianist Michel Petrucciani.

Neb

.. or Eddie Louis with Petrucciani as well.

spoimala · Post by **spoimala** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:41 pm

Ugh, check out Ken Hensley and Uriah Heep!

Herr Voigt · Post by **Herr Voigt** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:58 pm

Barbara Dennerlein is really great!
http://www.barbaradennerlein.de

MD69 · Post by **MD69** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:18 pm

and to the old timers, Procol Harum!

borg · Post by **borg** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:55 pm

i like klaus wunderlich a lot! and that is not a joke. i once got 100+ records from a couple that replaced their hifi, without getting a new turntable. most of them crap, but some gems, like good ol' klaus. happy faces all around. literally LOL.

i can't really confirm whether it's B3, but don preston (from FZ and the mothers) had some really nice organ tunes.

Liquid Len · Post by **Liquid Len** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:05 pm

Instead of favouring 'organ-based' or 'piano-based' I tend to go for individual songs, (but I do like ELP and Deep Purple.) More based on the production and presentation of the sound, which to me is just as important as 'how many notes per cubic inch'.

Don't forget Pink Floyd (especially Meddle, Obscured By Clouds, Dark Side Of The Moon). The Doors used a Vox Continental - probably not authentic to play their stuff on a Hammond (but a lot more authentic than using some cheesy 80s organ sound!)

As for individual songs :
Led Zeppelin - Since I've Been Loving You (sounds simple, but the devil is in the details)
Led Zeppelin - Thank You (since electric organs often had TWO keyboards, if you set them both to the same, or very similar sound, you could approach playing differently then left hand bass / right hand rhythm or lead)
Pink Floyd - In The Flesh (this song needs special mention)
Beatles - She's So Heavy
Ambrosia - Mama Frog
Boston - Smoking

Honorable mention :
Elton John - Between 17 and 20 (nice keyboard texture but doesn't dominate the song)
Gordon Lightfoot - Seven Island Suite (another song with the two keyboards set to the same, to produce unusual pre-synthesiser riffs)
Styx - Put Me On
Steely Dan - The Royal Scam (Do It Again was actually done on a Yamaha keyboard)
Supertramp - Ain't Nobody But Me

Songs that many people are sick of but people do request them, quite often :
Procol Harem - Whiter Shade Of Pale
Eric Clapton - Wonderful Tonight
John Cougar - Hurts So Good
CCR - Down On The Corner
Van Morrison - Brown Eyed Girl

Herr Voigt · Post by **Herr Voigt** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:45 pm

The early YES records (up to "Fragile"), the early Genesis records (up to "Selling England By The Pound"), Gentle Giant, Atomic Rooster etc. etc.

wolf · Post by **wolf** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:27 pm

Beside listening to songs you should try to get videos of playing hammond players and watch them live. Finally you need to get drunk (at least) to leave the world of limits and expectations .. a hammond is a nice percussion instrument as well .. or a bass .. or a screaming something ..

dbmac · Post by **dbmac** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:31 pm

Don't forget Steve Winwood in the Spencer Davis Group, and any Bluenote era Jimmy Smith....actually ANY Jimmy Smith. He used the whole kit, lead rhythm and bass.

/dave

Post by **hubird** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:05 pm

anyone knows if the organ solo on Rare Earth's Get Ready was a B3?

Post by **irrelevance** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:05 pm

Just linking my thread here:

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... &forum=7&3

Has relavance for playing technique.

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:40 pm

The video comment is an excellant example. When I was in an opening act for Skynard,Allman Bros.,Charlie Daniels, I was just an 18 year old punk from St.Louis who had fast chops from doing ELP and Yes for woodshedding purposes. But watching Gregg Allman,Chuck Leavell,Taz DiGregorrio,etc.I can say that they looked like they were playing the congas. Same with Emerson, when I was fortunate enough to catch the tour in 1972.Emerson was classically trained, but had a unique way of triggering multiple strikes of percussion. He would do 64th note grace licks by coming down sideways with his pinkie first, then 4th,3rd,2nd! It's amazing what you can learn by watching.
The B3/C3, and virtual emulation can be whatever you have in your head, just like our beloved Scope platform.

Strength And Honor,

Jimmy V.

ScofieldKid · Post by **ScofieldKid** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:14 pm

Larry Goldings Trio -- "As One"

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... ct-details

BuzzBang · Post by **BuzzBang** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:32 am

I was lucky enough to see Brian Auger's Oblivion Express recently. Absolutely fantastic. He was ripping it up like there was no tomorrow. He has been playing since at least 1965....... definitely worth checking out

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:39 pm

Yes,Yes,
I almost forgot about Brian Auger.Shame on my lame. I saw him live at the Boardwalk years ago and have to admit I stole his Tape Delay effect and still use it. Multiple heads spaced out take the initial attack of key click/percussion, and mix it with the slower attack of the stops for a great solo effect!!