Scope v4.5 Changelog. Where is it?

Liquid Len · Post by **Liquid Len** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:39 am

I was hoping people would read the over-the-top tone of the last few sentences of the paragraph as sarcasm.

valis · Post by **valis** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:48 pm

Shroomz it actually seems to me that every time Creamware has done a christmas offer or version update to the software there's been a large volume of complaining from a few existing planetz members and a few more new members. This really seems much like the same discussion that was had when 4.0 came out, and when the "ProPack" was announced (what??? only NEW customers get it for free?!?!).

etc.

Post by **garyb** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:09 pm

for those who remember...

Post by **hubird** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:42 pm

I do.

phyx · Post by **phyx** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:31 am

On 2005-12-04 21:06, hubird wrote:
phyx, read awhyle along the different threads about 4.5

I have... to no satisfaction.

phyx · Post by **phyx** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:33 am

On 2005-12-05 03:45, stardust wrote:
Phyx,

I guess the gentlemen here expected you to read the existing threads.
Anyway reading them is not very helpful because there is virtually no authorized information from CWA in those threads.

I guess the best is to e-mail them and ask for the version history, which is fair enough since you paid for it.

And dont be surprised about these reactions.
There is too much prophets and too less savior.

The other threads are worthless.

I have written Creamware asking them for a changelog... Friday in fact... no word yet.

Of course i do not expect to hear from them, they havn't even sent me my allkeys.skf that I had asked for months ago. Nor have they fixed their "My Page" area on their website.

phyx · Post by **phyx** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:36 am

On 2005-12-05 06:58, Liquid Len wrote:
Well, *maybe* calling yourself a major investor, when you are just another customer, could be construed as 'non-factual' or 'whining'. It's hard not to smile when I picture Creamware opening up the finer details of their work and progress to the public (making a versioning repository public!), because a customer is annoyed. Did you think Creamware is an autonomous collective? You're fooling yourself. It's a dictatorship. A self-perpetuating autocracy. The working classes get screwed. Just accept it.

I spent a lot of money on their proprietary system. I can not install another operating system to run their cards. THEREFORE I am an investor. I have put time and effort into a product that depends on a single company to exist.

symbiote · Post by **symbiote** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:26 am

On 2005-12-06 05:36, phyx wrote:

I spent a lot of money on their proprietary system. I can not install another operating system to run their cards. THEREFORE I am an investor. I have put time and effort into a product that depends on a single company to exist.

Heheh. That doesn't make you an investor. You don't become an investor in a car company if you buy a car from them, or a pot of margarine from a margarine company.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:36 am

On 2005-12-06 05:36, phyx wrote:
...I have put time and effort into a product that depends on a single company to exist.

my Korg 1212 doesn't run anymore EVEN WITH a still existing company - they just write 'not supported anymore'

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:58 am

Yeh, try getting support out of the big boys ...
Emu (poor, almost non-existant support for 2 grand sampler users since Creative got destructive with what was formerly a lovely Company),

Yamaha (very poor developement; non-existant PC Editor software developement for their MOT DSP family of digital gear (DS2416, O2R etc)

Korg as astro says & with many others it's the same. Once they've sold a product line they move on to the next, then the next etc.

We should consider ourselves blessed that Creamware are still producing anything. I just hope their server is OK etc.