The search for the 'God particle' is on at Cern

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:39 am

More about William Crookes:

http://www.acmi.net.au/AIC/CROOKES_BIO.html

http://www.sirwilliam.org/html/Sir%20_William.htm

http://chemistry.mtu.edu/~pcharles/SCIH ... ookes.html

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:03 am

Now here you have some about somebody in the same line, who experimented much with the fourth dimension, Oliver Lodge:

http://chemistry.mtu.edu/~pcharles/SCIH ... ookes.html

http://www.thepotteries.org/focus/003.htm

http://www.viking-z.org/alodge.htm

http://www.spiritwritings.com/oliverjosephlodge.html

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:04 am

Some amazing books to read about:

http://www.arthur-findlay.com/pages/arthursbooks.html

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:42 pm

I followed Spirit's link and must admit I find the 6 to 12 dimensional concepts of <a href=http://www.engon.de/protosimplex/index_e.htm>Burkhard Heim</a> much more appealing - though not exactly 'followable' for my humble mind

Exceptionally talented anyway, his mental capabilities were probably even emphasized by a terrible accident that left him almost blind, deaf and without forearms.

I never heard or read about this guy, thanks for the link

cheers, Tom

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Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:01 pm

Ha ! I was able to understand the index and that was about it...

If I could see a hyperdrive in my lifetime it would be one of the highlpoints of my life. It would be good to live through a huge technical innovation - like in past years for people with electricity, cars, planes, radio, antibiotics etc. Our age has computers, but they're pretty low on the excitement index

If this theory works out perhaps people will then say we could have had hyperdrive in 1970.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:47 am

Yes, by the sounds of things if others had followed Heim's theories, we may well have had.

If we'd had that advancement in the 70's it makes you wonder what we'd be like now !!

Bladerunner skyskapes might have looked like a medieval village

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:16 am

On 2006-01-16 18:01, Spirit wrote:
...we could have had hyperdrive in 1970.

we've had it 1985 as the brand name of the first Macintosh harddisk (3rd party), 10 Megabytes for $3k

there was no bus to connect anything to, so the manufacturer supplied a clip for the cpu to build one 'on the fly' for a custom controller.
The disk was a sh*tty ST506 PC drive that they sold for at least 3 times it's regular rate.

With the head positioning speed way beyond specs the drive was indeed fast as hell, but the track indicator couldn't stand the increased centrifugal force for much longer than warranty would last

Almost all heavy duty units failed reliably, that's why I remember it so well.
You could be the hero of the day if someone brought the sick machine for service, his face expressing the complete loss of all data and within 20 minutes you had the box up and running again - by a screwdriver and some sensible fingers

cheers, tom

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astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:57 am

On 2006-01-16 18:01, Spirit wrote:
Ha ! I was able to understand the index and that was about it...

that's the point where I'm a bit jealous at mathematically talented people who can actually 'think' math.
An item like 'spacetime' is already at the limits of imagination, as we're used to deal with it's components separately in everyday life.
Any dimension beyond has no reprentation in our 'regular' senses, but for a math 'model' this doesn't really matter.
It's really fascinating - and it opens up to a more complete reality description than traditional science may provide.
I have some serious white gaps on my personal map that simply cannot be explained - but not denied either.

At least I'd rather vote for an experimental proof of this theory than for another(?) trip to the moon...

cheers, Tom

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:27 am

Spacetime can be visualized by using the moving pictures analogy but instead of 2 dimensional frames think of 3 dimensional frames, or the space itself.

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:39 am

http://www.fusion.org.uk/

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:53 am

On 2006-01-17 09:54, stardust wrote:

Regarding spacetimetechnology:
We dont even have startechnology (fusion).
So you think we will have spacetimetechnology controlling space warp and even more warp holes. This would mean energies that even the sun has not produced in 10 billion years ! ?

If the space warps that means our bodies will warp too. I don't think we humans will be able to survive "warping"

Just like in the conditions at the event horizon of a black hole, where the space-time streches, Stephen Hawkings says a space ship will stretch with dire consequences for their occupants.

PS Bladerunner score is outstanding (Vangelis).

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BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:36 pm

The original Dune movie from the '80s?

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:19 am

I'd imagine we humans would need to be de-materialised at the sub-atomic level by a machine, their structure stored on a flash drive & re-materialised afterwards to be able to travel through a black hole or time. But what if the data no longer existed or was corrupted... you'd be stuck on a PCB

Maybe I watched too much Sci-fi as a child

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:43 pm