TRIP-POPISH: Thalamus - Between you Between Me

Thalamus · Post by **Thalamus** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:21 pm

<a name="planetz-file"></a><a href="http://www.planetz.com/Pulsar/files/mus ... .mp3"><img src="/forums/images/listen_icon.gif" border="0" alt=" Song"> Song</a> <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Genre: TRIP-POP <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Uses: Pulsar Effects,Pulsar Mixers,Pulsar Synths copyright © 2006 Thalamus _____________________________________ Hey you again,

It's been a long time you heard a real Thalamus song, but here is the chance.

Here is the "pretty much" pre-master, of a song, which I hope you can hear, has been through alot emotional choices and atmospheres.

It is as usual a rather complex pop song, wrapped in textures of sticky beats, huge elements and, by our new 3rd man, guitar FX heading into a strange universe.

To mention all the work in details is rediculous, but a lot of filters (mainly Creamware Interpole and the great freeware Frohmage by Ohmforce) is involved, and extreme cutting.

Synths are CW Minimax, CW Lightwave, T-o-T, NI Absynth.

Fx are from UAD and creamware, sonic timeworks, SPL and my ancient Tape echo KORG STAGE ECHO.

Oh, I should mention, the "kind of vocoded" drums in the intro, is actual a Ohmboys delay, set to produce some comb at deferend frequencies.

I'm also aware that the drums is slighly untight at times, but I grow in love with with, by not bying so static.

I gave it a quick try in CW optimaster, but not completely satisfied, though a great tool.

I hope you like it, and will give feedback about the emotion, arrangement and mix, before sending it out there.

one luv!

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Yours truely

Noah Laux
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http://www.thalamusic.dk


[ This Message was edited by: Thalamus on 2006-01-21 20:22 ]

AudioIrony · Post by **AudioIrony** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:50 pm

Very intricate and complex programming indeed.
This style appeals to me very much in terms of sheer musicality and surprises at every turn.
Thanks for listing the instruments / effects that you used.
Drum track sounds amazing and not "sloppy" to my ears.
Regards

Basic Pitch · Post by **Basic Pitch** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:38 pm

I LOVE IT!

Another amazing song, I gotta say though, the vocalist, I cant remember your girlfriend? She has really come into her own after all this time, I remember the 1st track you were saying she did not feel entirely comfortable and sure of her self at that time, well man she is just awesome!

Excellent tune, great vibe, just good music, when is the album? Anyways, great work here, but man those vocals, they draw me into a place of emotion.

Vocals remind me of a sneaker pimps, garbage, shirley manson(sp?) vibe.

Cheers!

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:40 pm

Hi there noah.

first of all i like the sound, like the lyrics, and i have a few suggestions:

composition:
the song starts very "involving": interesting percussion effects, combined with a text that makes me believe the girl actually is sort of frustrated cause the guy/girl she sings about doesnt see her reality the way she does. she sees the sadness in her/his eyes, your aggressive drum processing/programming underlines this part of the story.

my main critisism is this:
you lay the beats out in a sort of chaotic manner, i really like that. maybe you have listened to a few of Lambs albums, atleast i have, old favourite if mine

i find your structure in this song a BIT to similar to "simply as the rivers flow" (an old favourite of Your works, still lplaying

) and maybe a bit to similar.

heres my point: at 2:07, you break it down to a more guitarish, calm an quiet break. i would like to hear a version where you at this point , rather than going to the calm and thoughtfull mood, develop the uncertainty of the "wheel of fortune" she refers to as a deeper development of your allready complex drum programming, releasing her uncertainty/frustration into a break of even more drums and bass. this way you could "paint" how her thoughts also is confusing her, rather than calming her down. THEN you could give a little calm break before returning to the next verse, giving a more dynamic feel and build of the tune.

i can only say i love your work. as a long time trip hop lover, this is my thoughts though

keep up the good work, i actually cant think of anything u did that i dont like.

skide godt.

[ This Message was edited by: piddi on 2006-01-21 22:46 ]

Jngaelin · Post by **Jngaelin** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:29 pm

Hi Thalamus.

I've been listening to this track and there is one part of the track i deeply wish i could hear more of.

Between 00:50-01:02 the "metalic" sound dissapears together with the atmosphere and leaves the stage for the "growlin'" base, strings and the drums to take over! I LOVE that part!
The voice of the singer really meld into the backlground perfectly. It soo beautyfull.

To commend on the rest of the track..
..the breake at 01:40-01:42 is so nice!

And the "voice-cut" at 02:45-02:46 sounds so right!

If this is a pre-master as you say, then you are going in the right way.
The track sounds full and warm.
Only one thing about the compression.
At 01:24-01:40 it sounds as the sound is too full for the compressor to take. I detect distorsion. I could'nt hear it in my speakers but in by headphones. Especially at:
01:35-01:40.
But as you say it is a pre-master so dont pay much attention to me

Either way i like this track alot!!!!

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Knowledge is wealth.

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Moskeeto · Post by **Moskeeto** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:49 am

WOW.. definitely one of the better, or maybe even the best track I have heard on this forum, fantastic voice on that girl, and I love the drums (if they are sloppy, then you should make all your drums sloppy

) and all the cool twists and turns this track does, makes it really interresting, can definitely listen to this track lots of times without getting bored.

10 thumbs up

Skeet

Leper · Post by **Leper** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:33 pm

Fantastic. Enjoyed all the details with drums and everything. Great work!

Pete · Post by **Pete** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:55 am

How'd you start composing this one?

Did you start by writing some lyrics, using your keyboard to make the melody, and writing things down?

Sounds good!

Liquid EDGE · Post by **Liquid EDGE** » Tue May 09, 2006 5:44 pm

nothing critical to say...

rude tune.. finished....but then you know the indepth detail more youself. but i say it's done..

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Sun May 14, 2006 12:05 am

Well, since you've got so much praise, you can probably withstand a little criticism now....

I found the track to be completely tuneless and curiously unemotional. The vocals seem quite monotonous and flat to me, just words "sung" rather than believed (but that's common to a lot of pop so nothing new there).

I don't feel that the song really "goes anywhere" or has any particular high point. It's full of popular elements and style but without any of the "big hooks" of commercial songs.

The drums and the vocals to me felt like two different songs that had been simply overlayed together without really "meshing".

The only bit I really liked was the calm last 10 seconds or so.

I've been very brutual in my description, but I am trying to be helpful rather than just mindlessly critical...

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Sun May 21, 2006 9:06 am

The chorus would be good if you alter a note or two for variation. I think there should be more contrast in melody between the vocal parts so they are more clearly defined.

The drums are too mechanical for my taste and for the vocals.