Oscillator drift in vintage emulations?

Man-Machine · Post by **Man-Machine** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:28 am

Does anyone know if there is any oscillator drift emulation on the vintage synthesizer plugins?

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:27 pm

You can simulate that by fine-tuning a couple cents..

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:47 pm

Use a long LFO,i.e. a very low rate tied into pitch modulation.

Man-Machine · Post by **Man-Machine** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:09 am

Even if you tune an oscillator a few cents off you don't get that "phasing" effect from the drift. The LFO thing might fool it but it would only work on sounds that I'm not using the LFO already. I'm comparing a real Pro-One with the Pro-Tone plugin which by the way is a really good emulation, aside from this osc drift that I don't think is there.

Is that the official word on this feature? It's just not implemented?

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:42 am

If there isn't a control for it then I guess it's not implemented.

You could always hook up the MIDI out from a Modular LFO+val monitor patch to the fine tune control on the synth if you're short of LFO's. It won't be exactly the same and you'll have to experiment with smoothing and deal with 128 steps within a semitone, but it will add some movement.

kybernaut_01 · Post by **kybernaut_01** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:03 am

On 2006-04-13 10:09, Man-Machine wrote:
Even if you tune an oscillator a few cents off you don't get that "phasing" effect from the drift.

The reason is that in the Pro~One plugin the Freq steps are way to coarse. Try the Minimax plugin. There you can get the "phasing".

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:48 pm

On 2006-04-13 10:09, Man-Machine wrote:
...Is that the official word on this feature? It's just not implemented?

didn't they engineer their a** off to get rid of that bug-considered-a-feature in those glorious days of the analog ?
...and now some request it back for 'authenticity' ?

confused, Tom

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:48 am

Ladies And Gentlemen,......Astro.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:01 am

it was intended as a joke...

Tom

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:10 am

Even if you tune an oscillator a few cents off you don't get that "phasing" effect from the drift

Phasing is exactly what you get if you detune one of 2 osc's 10-15 cents... If mouse dragging the knob doesn't work, try arrowing it for smaller steps.
This can be easily revealed with a quick modular patch with 3 oscillators. Leave one alone, tune the other up and down respectively 10-15 cents. Still no phasing?

Man-Machine · Post by **Man-Machine** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:08 am

Thanks guys. I'll give it a try...

Also, while I'm on it, is there any other tips for comparing the original with the virtual Pro-One?

So far I've been able to reproduce all my favorite sounds satisfactorily. My picky ears were only able to notice very small diferences when the two were side by side. Once recorded I would not be able to tell which is which...

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alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:36 am

On 2006-04-17 11:08, Man-Machine wrote:
Thanks guys. I'll give it a try...

Also, while I'm on it, is there any other tips for comparing the original with the virtual Pro-One?

So far I've been able to reproduce all my favorite sounds satisfactorily. My picky ears were only able to notice very small diferences when the two were side by side. Once recorded I would not be able to tell which is which...

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The modular has also pitch modulator modules. you can apply very small quantities of LFO, also at very low speeds, or a Constant value that can be MIDI controlled from a sequencer.