Which is better RME Multiface or CreamWare Scope/A16

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Poa
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I have a Mac Dual 450 G4, RME MultiFace first generation, Cubase SL3, Alesis AI-3, SPL Mix Dream, UAD-1 Ultra Pak.

1. Is it worth it to sell those items and purchase CreamWare Scope Project & A16 and run it with my Cubase SL3 and a fresh new built PC.

2. DOES Creamware Scope & A16 sound better than my RME MultiFACE first generation.

3. I am building a perfect mix between a project studio and a full blown recording studio however my spot is only 250 SQFT so my current rig gives enuff INs/outs. I am more so concerend with saving money and having a superior sound.

At the END of The Day Which sounds and has better converters. Creamware Scope, A16 OR my RME Multiface.

"I also use a (2) TTpatchbays with my setup!!!"

I need professional none Biased feedback

Thank you,



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Post by darkrezin »

A16 Ultra coonverters are very similar quality to RME Multiface in my experience. Neiether of them are in the league of Apogee etc, but they are very usable.

RME drivers are really good, and solid. I personally get almost as good performance with Scope, but it can sometimes be hard to set up. However it's worth it if you need good DSP effects and synths. If you're happy with CPU-based stuff, then the RME will be fine.
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Post by astroman »

if the Powermac is productive and reliable I wouldn't change it.
As Stardust mentioned, you have some pretty good stuff on board - and your budget is a point.

Add a Scope system with 'classic IO' (as it's called - so it has 16 Adat channels) to a 2nd hand G4 (if you prefer the Mac domain) and treat it as an outboard sound module with 8 Adat channels to your existing sequencer system (you could extend this later, with DSPs and/or IO channels).

A Scope system doesn't need much, so any old stuff (either PC or Mac) will do, no kidding.
I use a 1.2G P3 that I got for 100 Euro for my 2 Pulsars and I'm not the only one :wink:

The Scope sound is excellent, as you may check in the music section of this forum, and the synths and mastering tools are hard to beat - if at all for affordable prices.
Imho it would nicely complete your system.
There's either a 'synth & sampler' or 'mix & master' software package included with the 6 DSP Project cards.

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Post by JamMusic »

I have 2 pulsar II cards connected to a Fireface 800 with Adat its a killer choice cause it adds the good rme preamps and best converter quality to the great effects and synth of creamware and nothing compares to scope platform,the Rme mixing board is not great at all
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Post by valis »

Although RME has added the ability to automate their mixers now, I still see the mixer for my Multiface more as a highly flexible router than for doing any sort of actual 'mixing' or summing. The Multiface II & Fireface converters are excellent for the pricerange, although I've heard the a16u is no slouch either.

Creamware DSP cards on the other hand can do routing/mixing/summing/fx/synthesis and so on. RME does conversion and i/o with flexible routing (as stated above). Personally I appreciate having both in my studio, especially since a day will come when the Scope cards are not compatible with a modern system (mine already lives happily in an old bx-based system).
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