is this motherboard good for 3 scope cards?

katano · Post by **katano** » Tue May 30, 2006 6:30 pm

hi all

i'm looking for a new computer, 'cause my cheap-o-dell has only two pci-slots and i recently bought a srb. now happy owner of 3 creamware cards with a total of 34 (36) dsp's

this guides me to the questions:

1. does anyone of you guys use this mobo and what's the experience?

ASUS P4P800 SE
P4 ATX
Intel 865PE
400/533/800MHz FSB
Socket 478
4xDDR
http://www.brack.ch/aspx/shop/lager.aspx?ArtID=11061

2. are there specific mobos on the market i should consider?

3. could be that i don't have the patience to build the system myself, where can i get some pre built systems?

greez
roman

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tgstgs · Post by **tgstgs** » Tue May 30, 2006 9:29 pm

ASUS p4p800SE 3GHZ pentium
4GB RAM (Samsung)
450W Power
raptor HDs (the 74GB ones) fastest HDs iv ever seen
matrox dualhead
Pulsar 1; pulsar 2; SRB
looking for anotzher scope prof. card having a friend who wants to buy my pulsar2
onboard sound no probl. (not deactivated)
have this config for over a mounth now
no XP optimizing no IRQ or disable something shit and no probls.
but i must say its only audioPC no other apps running on it!
hope that helps good vibes from vienna

tgstgs · Post by **tgstgs** » Wed May 31, 2006 2:34 am

i forgot to tell you :
pci slot 1,2 is no good for long cards (scope prof.or srb) becourse of sata connectors and slot 5 cant be used in common with WIFI;
i have no WIFI and use slots 3 4 5

katano · Post by **katano** » Wed May 31, 2006 2:47 am

hi tsgstststststststst

what a nickname

thanx for the useful informations!

other comments?

greez
roman

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Wed May 31, 2006 3:35 am

there is a pci to agp bridge on it, not realy good for high _native_ performance...
my asus wd2 e premium works much better...

katano · Post by **katano** » Wed May 31, 2006 3:37 am

thanx andre

i'll have a look at this...

FG445 · Post by **FG445** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:10 am

ooops, i thought u were talking about socket 775 Boards....

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katano · Post by **katano** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:21 am

thanx daniel

looking forward to get your srb

you know, get new stuff -> needs more new stuff to get the new stuff working -> new challenge -> don't get boring

cheers

katano · Post by **katano** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:22 am

socket 775 is also fine. i'll build a complete new DAW from scratch...

Music Manic · Post by **Music Manic** » Wed May 31, 2006 6:06 am

On 2006-05-31 04:35, AndreD wrote:
there is a pci to agp bridge on it, not realy good for high _native_ performance...
my asus wd2 e premium works much better...

How does that affect performance Andre?

Thanks

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Wed May 31, 2006 6:09 am

I'd guess that AGP activity is routed through the PCI bus, therefore affecting PCI bandwidth.

katano · Post by **katano** » Wed May 31, 2006 6:10 am

jep, that's why you should disable bus mastering and hardware acceleration when using an agp card...

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Wed May 31, 2006 6:20 am

If you disable hardware acceleration, then the graphics calculations are done on the CPU.

On a good motherboard you should not have to disable graphics acceleration.

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Wed May 31, 2006 4:54 pm

Hmm, my nForce3-based board has a PCI-to-AGP bridge. Is that bad??

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:20 pm

Not entirely sure. I've never seen any PCI errors on my NF3 system, even when using firewire/USB/LAN (and one of the Scope cards shares IRQ with an RME 9636 which I use for audio in Logic, routed into Scope via ADAT).. this was not the case with my previous intel system - lots of PCI errors back then.

tgstgs · Post by **tgstgs** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:05 am

to AndreD "there is a pci to agp bridge on it, not realy good for high _native_ performance...
my asus wd2 e premium works much better"

wd2 e Premium is 207 E mine is 64 E
cpu cost also more and i can use my old grafik thats a differec of 2-300 E
please define much better is it realy worth
my opinion is to invest better in fast HDs and RAM that brings more for recording than anything else;
i tested this board also and finaly took the cheeper one.

to Katano my nick is a relict from the past and i never changed it in all those years
im relativ new to this forum but maybe you know me from old tripledat forum or old dspsystems forum on creamware i have my pulsar 1 since v1.0 1998 or so before that 3Dat

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:00 am

ok:

A complex native mix, just worked at 25ms latency on my asus p4 p800 se is now running @ 3ms latency with some power left for a few IR1...

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katano · Post by **katano** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:47 pm

What means IR1? infrared 1?

and why did it work now also at low latency? tell us the tuning stuff

cheers
Roman

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katano · Post by **katano** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:20 pm

On 2006-05-31 07:20, darkrezin wrote:
If you disable hardware acceleration, then the graphics calculations are done on the CPU.

But no one cares who doesn't use vst's...

Post by **garyb** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:26 pm

goodness, you don't need this much trouble. clean install, good chipset, quality parts, turn off the xp wonder graphics(no need to turn off acceleration or anything unless you have matrox, then just disable bus mastering). i use nvidia, never pay more than $80 and it always is fine), turn off the screen saver, choose "always on" in power management make sure that there is no irq sharing with cw and away we go....

for an 865 motherboard, i'd choose the d865perl. it's still made. it was hard to get for a minute but it's back. as long as the computer is set up properly, it is stable, stable, stable and always works. best of all, it's under $100 and it's genuine intel, first quality.

the asus mentioned by AndreD works well too. i've used it several times and no troubles, super nice.

actually, any good quality motherboard will work, just intel and nforce3 chipsets work best. i've put cards into computers with ati chipsets and they(multiple cards) work, even with onboard video! my first scope computer was a slota athlon with a via chipset and a pulsar1(still use the pulsar..). it worked. of course, getting rid of via was better, i sure had a lot less less fiddling to do to get stablity...

just go step by step, should be fine. avoid cheap, crappy parts....