cracks with ASIO Scope

zodiak · Post by **zodiak** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:11 pm

I have a problem with cracks - I use the creamware synths under xtc and have no problems,
but when I am under scope, I can play of the synths but there
are unceasingly cracks, mainly at the end of the notes under cubase
SX3.
- I tried to regulate latencies ULLI without success.
- similar for the audio priority in settings of ASIO SCOPE in cubase SX.
-I have another soundcard (terratec dmx6fire) but I do not use
this ASIO under cubase -
- all waves files or others vsti (arturia, reaktor...) plays with cracks under scope & SX3
- it does not have there crackings before I
launch scope and cubase - the mp3 function clearly front, but after
having closed scope and cubase, they continue to be made hear when I
read audio files
- when i am under cubase and scope, and that I want to import an audio file, the pre-listening of this one is also with
cracks

I'm going mad, who can help me? it would seem that it is the pilot ASIO SCOPE who functions badly.

my setup : windows XPpro, PIV 3.2, nvidia graphic card, dmx6fire...
thanks a lot

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:10 am

On 2006-06-24 00:11, zodiak wrote:
... -I have another soundcard (terratec dmx6fire) but I do not use
this ASIO under cubase - ...

even if unusued, the dmx might still claim resources and interupts.
Soundcard manufacturers are generally focussed on 'their' product, with few concerns to cooperation.
I'd disable the Teratec card completely in device manager just to see if the system reacts to it (to avoid a complete uninstall and physical removement of the card)
Which chipset has your mobo ?

cheers, Tom

zodiak · Post by **zodiak** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:32 am

i have an asustek p4p800-E

zodiak · Post by **zodiak** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:53 am

the problem it is that the sound always passes by the dmx6fire.. is it normal? when I look at the graphics meters of the terratec and that
I play one creamware synth in cubase (under asio scope), the
graphics meters of the 6fire react, therefore the sound leaves well by the
terratec... i can't do otherwise because i have to connect my analog RCA to the terratec analogs outputs (for monitoring..)
(sorry for my bad english, i'm french...)

zodiak · Post by **zodiak** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 4:29 am

this morning i've changed PCI port for dmx6fire and pulsar... it's the same, cracks again...

zodiak · Post by **zodiak** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:21 am

i'm desactivate dm6fire in windows and after that when i launch scope, i have the following message : "attempted to open with an unsupported waveform audio format (this error message is put in a little windows call "extwav01")
and always when i launch scope with a basic project :"error : scope [2] MIDI A Source is not appropriate for your hardware" and again : "error : scope [2] MIDI A Dest is not appropriate for your hardware"

finally, with dmx6fire desactivate, can't hear nothing because i've no input/output on my pulsar, i've to use the dmx6fire for obtain sound !

bronYaur · Post by **bronYaur** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:45 am

I have found some craking problems with DAW that have VGA like radeon or similar bat with NVIDIA generally all works fine,wich tipe of NVIDIA you have?
Use second or thirdy PCI slot ,generally these don't condivide nothing

Sorry for my english

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zodiak · Post by **zodiak** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:04 am

i've a winfast geforce4 MX 4000 64mo...
i've tried to change PCI slot, nothing better...
.... but on the older versions of scope it was possible to choose the buffer in the settings on pulsar... why it can be possible now with the scope 4.0 ? I think it's can be the solution... because the "cracks" i hear is the same noise produced by a bad buffer size or a bad asio resolution... maybe it's that.... maybe others problems.... damn...

Post by **garyb** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:17 am

go to start/accessories/system tools/system information/hardware resources/conflicts-sharing and see if the scope card shows up. if so, what is sharing with the scope card?

zodiak · Post by **zodiak** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:33 am

i can see :
pulsar is on IRQ 23 sharing with

another part call :
"controller PCI host to wide USB standard bus"
(i"ve translate the line as i can)

there are two material on IRQ 23 : the pulsar and this "controller PCI host.."

i can see too that my dmx6fire is alone on the IRQ 21

zodiak · Post by **zodiak** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:00 am

my project config :
thinking it was possible the problem source is the asio dest and source, i've change with asio1, asio2 in the routing, but nothing better...

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:08 pm

do you route to the DMX via Soundcard Destination ?
then the crackle is normal as it's a very slow connection (old soundblaster standard) - you should also experience a significant loss in audio quality.
Sharing with an USB device is also very bad as USB generates lots of interupts even if nothing is connected to the port. Disable this USB, you probably have more than one (dunno that mobo in detail).

why don't you use Scope's Analog Out for monitoring ?
do you have the Adat only version ?

cheers, Tom

Post by **garyb** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 5:48 pm

yes, it's either a master/slave issue with the ad/da converters on the adat lines or the usb shared irq. most likely, it's the shared irq. disable that port(there's a number by it) in the device manager...

zodiak · Post by **zodiak** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:31 pm

thanx
i've disable the sharing usb controller - now the pulsar is alone on IRQ 23
reboot and the problem is the same... cracks again

"why don't you use Scope's Analog Out for monitoring ?"
====} because i've no analog outputs or input on my pulsar xtc 2 ... nothing on the card no midi or RCA...

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:24 am

so you've listened to that thing only through the 'soundcard destination' channel until now ?
just get an IO-plate and all your problems will be gone - and your ears will thank you, too

cheers, Tom

ps: with a little luck you can certainly pickup one really cheap. Some shops may have old stock, someone's card broke or another IO plate was aquired etc

Post by **garyb** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:29 am

yes, astroman is right.

zodiak · Post by **zodiak** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:53 am

so... it's hard to find this classic io plate extension...
maybe if i try to install a basic luna card ? she have analog IO, and i will spending less or the same than the classic plate extension ?

zodiak · Post by **zodiak** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:47 am

i can read on a french forum that cracks can be the result of a master/slave config

i can put only my pulsar on "master", so maybe the cracks can found their origin in this config ? does the pulsar have to be put on "slave" and dmx6fire on "master" ?

H-Rave · Post by **H-Rave** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:54 am

As you say just buy a luna,in france you can find them for 150 euros because nobody buys them,and you get three extra dsp's to work with.

zodiak · Post by **zodiak** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:58 am

ok...
thanks you a lot guys for your help !!!!
chris