Next stop Stonehenge , exit right hand side please...

ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:54 pm

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The town council of Salisbury decided few days ago that Stonehenge will be affiliated to the british railway network.
Stonehenge becomes a station.

The English Heritage organisation agreed after lots of changes in the plan, so nothing can harm stonehenge directly.

Also the plan includes the build of an museum near Stonehenge.

When the first train will stop at Stonehenge isn´t clear, because the plan is tied up to a complex road building project.
That project includes a bypass road and a ROAD TUNNEL UNDER THE STONES.
Costs: aprox. 700 million euro.

My dear english friends,
how about to spend the money into the exploration and preservation of Stonehenge?

My guess, as soon you undermine Stonehenge you´ll sink your whole isle.
Maybe you can try to build a roof over Stonehenge?
I am sure you´ll find a way to challenge the magic of this place.

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Counterparts · Post by **Counterparts** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:13 am

Bloody hell, it's bad enough that the A303 (in your picture) passes within a stones throw of the place :-/

What a total waste of money. Yet another "back hander" situation without a doubt

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:39 am

They should get rid of that road - outrageous that it's there. How about actually re-erecting some of those stones that have fallen over? i hat this mentality of keeping ruins as they are found, only to let them become more ruinous. i'm not saying add any more stones, just use put the remaining stones upright (like the 'altar' stone, which is nothing of the sort - it just fell over).

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:45 am

What about helicopter landing platforms on the pyramids of Giza? Or some UFC fighting championships at the Roman Colliuseum like with Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris in the Chinese connection. They could re-enact the warrior woman of England vrs. the Romans live at Stonehenge? Maybe our real founding fathers would return and show the archeologists what really happened here.

Janni · Post by **Janni** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:55 pm

They will name it the "Lady Diana Tunnel"!

Jan

Post by **hubird** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:49 pm

They should try this with every road:

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:23 pm

No doubt, men in charge of this world some times seem to bee concerned with the wrong priorities... meanwhile some truly “first needs” are let out in the dark. I don’t deny the beauty of the place, and its historical fact, but what is history without people?

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:40 pm

nestor, thank you 4 that great thread on routing, as it helped me re route with efficiency in SFP

ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:51 pm

Maybe I understood you wrong Nestor, so sorry in advance, but what Salisbury is doing here has nothing to do with history.
At least not for my understanding.

Imagine:
"Come on Mary, we want go to the stones!"
"Ahhh, but I want this shoes from this shop mum"
"We can go to the shop later" "I want my shoes"
"Where is dad, mum" "He is at the pub, Marry as usual". "Ok, we buy your shoes, now but then we look at those stones, ok?"
" Super mum, I love you"
"I know"
"So, what do you think Marry? This is a nice magical place, isn´t it"
" Yes, they have nice shoes".....

Anyway, good to see you around Nestor, looks that you are busy at the moment?

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Counterparts · Post by **Counterparts** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:33 am

On 2006-07-12 19:49, hubird wrote:
They should try this with every road:

LOL!

miguel · Post by **miguel** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:43 am

Welcome back Nestor! I've heard the stones are nowhere near as they were originally, that the whole thing was altered (maybe even transported?) for aesthetic's sake by some archeological genius of the 19th century. Is it true?

Counterparts · Post by **Counterparts** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:02 am

miguel wrote:
I've heard the stones are nowhere near as they were originally, that the whole thing was altered (maybe even transported?) for aesthetic's sake by some archeological genius of the 19th century. Is it true?

Quite frankly, no.

The original circular bank is thought to have been constructed around 2950 B.C. Then stones were brought in from Wales (the bluestones or dolerite stones) about 400 years later, followed by the stones making the trilithons (from the Marlborough downs area). There was some further rearrangement of the bluestones (notable the 'altar' stone which was moved to the centre of the horseshoe) but nothing else has really changed since about 1600 B.C.

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:42 am

What miguel may be thinking of is that between i think the 17th and 19th Centuries sites like Stonehenge and particularly the nearby Avebury were looted for their stones to build houses as they weren't really revered as they are now. So in fact these sites were more complete than they are now until failry recently.

Oh, and the site of Stonehenge previously had a woodhenge some thousands of years before the current stones were slowly erected.

skwawks · Post by **skwawks** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:13 pm

Hey guys I was there last year . That road isn't really all that intrusive from the site and they DO care about it you know . Mr Arkadin was right about ripping the stones for houses and it wasn't so long ago that you could just walk in and basically do anything you wanted . It's a magic place ,but if you wanna see a big stone you gotta check out Ayers Rock in central Oz ,Uluru these days

Trust me on this... go in our winter and dont forget Deserts get friggin cold at night .

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:14 pm

I think we should remember that these are just rocks. All that matters is that we are alive. I care about myself, family and friends. What bothers me is that we just killed 30,000 people for no good reason in Iraq. To worry about a bunch of stupid stones is rather idiotic to me.

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:27 pm

And that's a rather idiotic comment from you braincell... so i care about my history therefore i don't care about Iraq... Hhhmm how does that work? Foolish statement.

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ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:40 am

Taking care about some Stones (as you say) doesn´t mean that I can´t take care about something else, too.
Agreed?

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:53 am

Agreed but it just isn't high on my list of endangered things to save. History isn't going anywhere because these stones have been so well measured, documented and replicated.

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:53 pm

Hello there you people! I would love to have more time to spend here, but I cannot much at the moment.

Scope4life: I’m glad you found the thread about rutting useful, unfortunately I could never spend the time it was needed to finish it with the help of some of you here, well, perhaps in the future.

Hello Chris and Miguel: Well, what I mean is that there are issues to resolve that are of vital importance to people in the UK before the Stonehenge. For instance, they could cover some better health and care for the elder in Scotland, particularly in Glasgow. All this money is a ridiculous amount to be used on it if you think on the circumstances of quite a few poor people in Scotland.

I have read some books and played attention to history behind Stonehenge, no doubt that if there is an overabundance of revenue in the UK one day, they could use it to fix the place, nevertheless, it is a business in itself as it makes great profits being a main touristy attraction, but as long as there are people suffering for lack of assistance and quality attention, no way, the stones can wait, people can’t.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:01 pm

For your information Nestor, the Glasgow as we know it here in Scotland has been primarily created by the British government in a series of ill-founded 'schemes', just like most other major cities in the UK... IE, Scotland didn't create the Glasgow we know, because of English (British) interference & mostly their unappreciated rule over Scotland's wealth & treasures.