Best Midi sequencer for scope

Kymeia · Post by **Kymeia** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:50 pm

I was wondering if there was a "pure" midi sequencer that I could use to play Scope synths with without having to use ASIO. I can use some algorythmic apps like Fractal Tunesmithy this way to drive a Scope synth but was wondering if there was a proper composition environment that worked the same way without being a full DAW.

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:55 pm

Very good question.. have you looked at the sequencing in EnergyXT? As an added bonus it's modular.

Other than that, I dunno... if I was looking for a pure MIDI solution I'd take advantage of hardware (MPC etc)..

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:12 pm

Roland MC-500MkII w/ internal HDD is as solid as they get, but very long in the tooth. I used it 4 18 years to change lights and vocal FX, and occasional comps during solos and stuff, but it never crashed once, ever.

sharc · Post by **sharc** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:23 pm

Elektron Machine drum and Mono Machine offer a lot of power for hardware hands-on midi sequencing. Cost a few pennies but well worth it.

sharc · Post by **sharc** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:26 pm

....Alternatively, pick up an old cheap Atari/Mac with cubase or logic(rock solid).

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:37 pm

I read about the Elektron in Sound and Sound and loved it. Do you know anyone who has used it live for a length of time.

sharc · Post by **sharc** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:54 pm

http://www.elektron.se/stories.php

Personally, I'll let you know in a few months time once I've had a chance to properly road test it. But so far I'm very impressed with it.

voidar · Post by **voidar** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:26 pm

Jazz++ http://www.jazzware.com/zope is pretty bare MIDI software, though it has some crude audio implementation. You don't need to enable it.

Kymeia · Post by **Kymeia** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:32 am

I already use Energy XT but the point of this thread is I want to try a setup without ASIO modules - just Midi sequencing routed straight into Scope plugins

So I'm looking for a good sequencer that doesn't need ASIO and just does Midi - no audio as I have VDAT for recording (no WDM either for that matter - I'm not interested in Sonar either)

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:40 am

you don't need to connect ASIO in EnergyXT, imho it's not required for the app to function

cheers, Tom

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:13 pm

Yamaha RS7000 imho is the best hardware midi seq there is, with lots of handon knobs and live midi effects, like midi delays, timeshift, swing etc... Read&write sysex, automation on all cc, program changes, realtime midi seq regroove with a precision of 480ppq.

Yamaha is well known for it's outstanding sequencers. I drive creamware & vdat from rs7000, and it work flawlessly. No software on earth can be that much rock solid on midi timing.

sells cheap these days, but it's becoming collector fast...

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:59 pm

I agree with marcuspocus also, as I still have my Yamaha DMP7, and QX-1 MIDI sequencer. Yamahas old hardware is untouchable IMHO, as they don't make 'em like they use to. I paid 2600 USD in 1984 for the QX-1. I made that back in the first 6 months of use, as I made sequences 4 a local fake " pretty band" back in '85. Like the Rolands, Yamaha never crashed once, it was designed 4 live performance, period. So it's safe to assume the RS is from the same design table.

Hujib · Post by **Hujib** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:57 am

Cubase VST 5 with the audio engine disabled is GOD-LIKE

Kymeia · Post by **Kymeia** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:19 am

Anyone tried this? - it looks quite powerful

http://www.ntonyx.com/onyx.htm

dubcotics · Post by **dubcotics** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:23 am

hi,

get ahold of a midi keyboard controller like the edirol series, hook it thru USB, launch your favourite midi sequencer and voila! You may use any Creamware synth to connect it thru your mdid sequencer, now any note that you trigger will be midied in your sequencer,
the synths will behave as VST instruments,
no need for XTC etc, that's the power of Scope,

cheers,

didier,

Kymeia · Post by **Kymeia** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:28 am

Yes thats basically my plan - I've already been doing this with some algorithmic apps but want to use a more sophisticated composition environment too.