THAT's wrong with the RMX-160 demo

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 4:07 pm

just stumbled across a post by kwild and couldn't trust my eyes

how the story started (I'll keep it short)...

On 2006-08-03 11:06, astroman wrote:
very strange, I've had the 'early' demo of the RMX 160 and the current one (with the LED GUI).
I liked the first version, but found the 2nd a complete piece of crap - in fact it's so harsh and metallic (with just one omnipresent 'sound' whatever you dial in) that there must be something wrong (and completely messed) imho...

On 2006-08-03 11:21, digitalaudiosoft wrote:
tom,
i have change only the design on the rmx160a.the sound is the same of the first rmx160 of course.

maybe the zip is corrupted,you should downloaded it again or verify your system.

the new rmx160a has been downloaded 248X (and already sold) and you are the first who have a problem.
ev

On 2006-08-03 17:35, astroman wrote:
...I was able to find the original back, and do some side by side comparisons...
If this plugin is considered to even remotely remind at the respective AMS device, then either my or your ears need service by a physician.
...
I'm in no way interested to spoil your business, but I also don't want to make a fool out of myself.

cheers, Tom
(would have preferred to write something else)

On 2006-08-03 21:15, digitalaudiosoft wrote:
tom,

do and think what you want...

what's the problem or what's your problem ?

in your first post you have "strange sound" and in the second you are talking about something else !
...
eric

well Eric, here's the problem and you even knew it (since end of may)...

On 2006-05-21 07:28, kwild wrote:
U are right man but i got that phase cancellations with your plugs only.
Putting you s9000 mastering comp (or what tha fuck is called) in my mastering chain (psy q/optimaster/sl9000/timeworks mastercomp hard) when i swith to mono the sound becames horrible.Without your stuff no problems...so i think i can't buy your plugs for the moment...

On 2006-05-21 10:19, digitalaudiosoft wrote:
U are right man but i got that phase cancellations with your plugs only.
it's not false kwild, and i think we've found the problem :
it's due to our protection module we use, that we still have modified several times !!!
first all all, it's not a total cancellation and what is more strange it doesn't appear on all plateforms !!!
the protction module seems to react differently in several situations.

We made all of our tests on full non protected versions, and the problem you've found actually exists on protected modules, sometimes ...

we are going on working on this protection module, in order to propose every one something the nearest as possible to the full versions,

thanks again for this remark,
digitalaudiosoft

dear Eric, as a super smart sound engineer (according to your own estimation) you probably know that partly phase cancellations can easily make a sound tinny and metallic, so why not just answer that someone had a similiar problem ?
Instead a bunch of absurd accusations and quotes of statements I never made.

I (once) appreciated DAS as a new developement company (I spare the quotes) and even 'defended' your GUI approach of the RMX-160, yet my questions regarding it's midi control are ignored, as are those (by me and a few others) regarding it's algorithm.
Fine, so will be your products by me (... was about to buy the reverb)

happy mixing, Tom

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 4:21 pm

Ladies And Gentlemen,....Brotha'Man Astro.

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 4:26 pm

and why is this worth another topic? if it answers your first topic it probarly will be for the best of everybody who searches the forum to keep it in one thread.

It might not fulfill your other "non-biased" agenda though.

Post by **hubird** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:44 pm

sure it's worth a new topic, if you ask me (you didn't

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I would do the same.

Not only the personnal and irrational incorrect hard attacks of DAS justify it, as one wants to clear his name

It also is good for us consumers to know that the demos may have bugs, according to the masters themselves.

It's clear as hell.

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Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:07 am

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astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:28 am

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astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:21 am

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Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:32 am

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I'm out. I don't want involved in this sort of rubbish anymore
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katano · Post by **katano** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:16 am

let's get ready to ruuuuumble

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:55 am

im not here to rumble but i find it funny that a support man can post two technical problems in the general scope discussion thread rather than the problem Solving thread. it just doesnt make sense.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:27 am

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Post by **hubird** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:52 pm

On 2006-08-14 02:46, Shroomz wrote:
I mean seriously, I can't imagine for one minute that you'd treat CWA in the same fashion as you are DAS if CW brought out a buggy device

I mean seriously, I can't imagine for one minute that CWA would treat you in the same fashion as DAS is you, if CW brought out a buggy device.

I bet it was CWA itself that asked DAS to hold back from the infamous What's wrong thread.
Customers on the internet just do what they do, a company can't.
Quid licet bovi (the customers) non licet Yovi (DAS).
(inverse to the usual way).

Are you really interested in the poor souls of critisized software develloppers on our platform, Shrooms??
Who again was it who came in on Planetz as a new member, seriously pretending it was the real Bob Moog who signed in...what a shame to the most famous devellopper ever.

You always seem to hunt for some borrowed identity, is it pretending a big name, is it manifesting as the big devellopper defender, or is it the socalled compassionate voice of the poor suffering people in the Mid East (eh, excluding Israelic civilians that is)...

Everything is good, if only you are in the middle of the heat...even if you have to bite the dust time after time after time after...
Hm, what was the word again...narcistic?
cheers

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Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:54 pm

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hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:43 pm

Astroman, I don`t get the point...

You don`t like the audioquality of the plug-ins at all, or do you talk about the bugs, that are still not fixed on the demo version?

the bugs I ve found on the demos are:

(1) distortioned sound without showing this on the indicator....

For example I sometimes get heavy shattered distored reverb on the RMX160. And it is still in GREEN/RED indicator LED area...

same with the neve... if you boost some frequencies it does distort heavyly but the clipping LED is still off...

(2) the RMX160 sometimes crackles at the fadout and mutes the reverb completly...
I do not mean the demo muting, but they may be a connection between the this bug and the demo-muting.

Thats all. Hopefully they`ll fix it soon.
As I like the tools very much...

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Post by **hubird** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:48 pm

On 2006-08-14 14:54, Shroomz wrote:
rat + snake = moronic lifeform

not really, rats in fact are rather intelligent, the testlabs on the world are full of them.

Did you know a snake (some of them at least) can't see it's prey, he's even blind.
It's his tongue that detects the body warmth of the prey from several meters!
Call that moronic!

1. You are by far the most conflictuous person on planetz (which takes a warm place in my heart after all those years).
2. You are the only one who got at least several serious warnings for your forum behaviour from the moderator (not sliming here!).
3. You are the only one who falls back to hard calling names instead of keeping on argueing (your Zoo).
4. And explicitely you are having the biggest mouth of all, without respect for the gathering of multi national members, easily risking the chance of splitting up our community in camps, like in the 21 pages counting Mid East thread.

These are facts, not wild accusations.

At least I ask you to play the adopted 'roles' much more smart.

F.e., it's completely incredible to continuously bombing us with pictures showing the Isrealic violence, and then, attacked, suddenly playing the role of the neutral guy, looking for serious discussion and information exchange.

If you'd have posted only one picture of a victom of a Hetzbollah rocket you'd have disarmed me. Is it that difficult?

The same for your develloppers-defending role and other identities.

Call me a snake, but play the game a bit more intelligently please, it hurts my brains!

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astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:36 pm

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digitalaudiosoft · Post by **digitalaudiosoft** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:16 pm

On 2006-08-14 15:43, hifiboom wrote:
(2) the RMX160 sometimes crackles at the fadout and mutes the reverb completly...
I do not mean the demo muting, but they may be a connection between the this bug and the demo-muting.

[ This Message was edited by: hifiboom on 2006-08-14 15:48 ]

there is a noise gate ,so,you have to adjust the release (for example to 1s) and it will be ok.

eric

and for your distorded sound,take care of your level.the clip in n1084 is for the plug not for the level of your track.for example if you boost bass,the out level increase...
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digitalaudiosoft · Post by **digitalaudiosoft** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:17 pm

On 2006-07-02 09:21, astroman wrote:
you probably will not want to edit (record) it as a realtime controller anyway - or it would be the first of it's kind to work without hick-ups
given it has midi control I'd assign one CC to the dial (0-127) and a toggle switch to each selection button.
it matches a BEHRINGER BCR 2000 perfectly

cheers, Tom

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digitalaudiosoft · Post by **digitalaudiosoft** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:18 pm

about phase problem in demo version

On 2006-06-10 03:02, digitalaudiosoft wrote:

i have "optimized" demo version of sl9000 ,sl9000 master comp,n1084eq.
those new demo version has been uploaded on website this morning and are avaible on download now.

ev

digitalaudiosoft · Post by **digitalaudiosoft** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:27 pm

On 2006-07-05 03:24, digitalaudiosoft wrote:
hi all,

a new demo of RMX160A is now on our website.

ev