A VST adapter for Fusion Platform. What about that?

lagoausente · Post by **lagoausente** » Mon May 01, 2006 11:29 am

If I could buy each pluing at 20 euros, I would probably end spending lot of money on lots of plugins.
Since now, on tools or plugins about 150 euros each, I´m really spent time thinking on which one would buy. I often come to conclusion that I should better reserve the money for a vacation, then wasting money on devices for make a song that nobody will ear.
I think that the number of amateur musicians with low money are so high that I really think that any of you would win much more money selling a plugin at 5 euros that at 50 euros.
Just think on a music cd. You can get an old Michael Jackson cd for some euros, and he wins millions, just because there are lot of people who buy it.
I think that there are lots of creamware users. If tools were very cheap, every pulsar one would want to have lot of stuff, or even all avaiable. What happens is that just we cannot access to it.
Here, the vst platform has one advantage, wazered versions are used so much that everybody end using it, and finally in most cases buying what really are useful for own requirements.
As an example, for the near future, I´m thinking about buying Dynatube, don´t sure yet. It costs 180 euros. I would probably forget about looking for any other pluing to buy for a while.
If I could buy Dynatube for 30 euros, I would just have it, and would be thinking about what more to buy, and I think as me, lots and lots of guys.
Of course, just an opinion.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue May 02, 2006 2:37 pm

it definetely doesn't work this way.
Wavelength once offered all his devices for that price and only a small fraction of those who downloaded actually paid.
Warp69's first release of the P100 was 99 Euro which is a joke for that class of device, even more as it was spiced with a chorus delay that's worth easily the same amount.
The price of Flexor was set with '... so that everyone can afford it...' in mind, sales were neglectible, considering the quality gain the package brought to Modular users.

While Scope devices are true hardware, the product is considered software - and obviously that's considered a common good.
Free, stolen, downloaded, whatever you like...

cheers, tom

Post by **hubird** » Tue May 02, 2006 3:49 pm

I would LIKE to pay for OS9 support...and when an external Scope box, for OSX.
yeah, off topic, right, but speaking about software...

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braincell · Post by **braincell** » Tue May 02, 2006 7:01 pm

Would much prefer Rewire!

On 2006-04-21 04:47, black_chungo wrote:
Hi!

Anobody knows about an VST wrapper for the scope fusion platform? A device that lets you load any VSTi or effect inside the project window and route audio in and out from it...
Would that be possible to develop?

Black.

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marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Tue May 02, 2006 9:39 pm

yep rewire module would be so cool....

YiannisK · Post by **YiannisK** » Tue May 02, 2006 10:16 pm

If it's the load your worried about when using vst's in lets say cubase sx and you don't really need all the features why not use V-stack ?
It's cheap and it has a clock for sync.

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Wed May 03, 2006 11:09 am

The way I imagine it, it would be invisible and running in the background like it does in Reason. You wouldn't have a module for it as it would be a part of every module. Then you would not need an ASIO module.

On 2006-05-02 22:39, marcuspocus wrote:
yep rewire module would be so cool....

cannonball · Post by **cannonball** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:41 am

bump

could be a vst host running with sx3 sequencer?
how to you use my Valvetone Colortone vst plugin (master insert stm 2448mixer)or a convolution reverb vst in scope project (aux/rt) with sx3 sequencer running audio tracks.
do we need multi asio client driver for this?

djmicron · Post by **djmicron** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:18 am

nope,
it is possible with scope multichannel asio

Post by **garyb** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:49 am

if you're running cubase, just use that as the vst host.
or use a simple stand alone host, either way, there's already an external device plugin that alllows for easy routing and that works in insert slots.

there's no problem using vsts if you really want to. in any case, you will get 2x ulli latency. i usually use vsts in the sequncer doing the play back for that reason. if it is a send effect, i just use the send in say, cubase, and then give that bus it's own output. anything inserted on a single channel gets inserted on that channel before the channel goes out it's own output. that way i get PDC and the best of both worlds........

cannonball · Post by **cannonball** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:10 am

@Dj micron

which routing i must do it for use for example colortone vst plugin like a master insert in stm2448 runnin cubasesx

djmicron · Post by **djmicron** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:57 am

you can insert in the stm channel the "external effect " module and assign as inputs and outputs the corresponding asio channels of the vst effect.

The cubase sx channel where you have insterted the colortone vst, must have the monitor button enabled.

cannonball · Post by **cannonball** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:36 am

hi
the external effect device doesn't works in master,,
for insert in master section of stm2448, you need the master external effect device,with this device you can listen and see a sound activity from the routin,
anyway,the vst plugin in sx channel doesn't works at all, you can only monitor the signal in the inspector but in any plugin you don't see signal passing through.
The delay compensation in the master effect external devices isn't workable

ciao

djmicron · Post by **djmicron** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:36 am

it worked on my system,
to have the lowest latency, you should use the asio 2 modules.
I think there is something wrong in your routing, because i have done it.
Best Regards

Sal

p.s. the difference between external effect and external master effect is about the available settings and the level meter, but you can use both in master section too.