ASUS P5W DH DELUXE SK775, PCIe E6600 2GB RAM FREEZES

flexxer · Post by **flexxer** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:56 am

I have got pulsar 1 (4dsp) and power pulsar (15dsp) and srb 1 (4dsp)
I first installed windows xp with multiproccesor when using cubase sx 3 the pc freezes after about 30 minutes.

later i changed from multiprocessor pc to standard pc an windows hangs at startup i can see the login screen with user name but it freezes strangly enough after a while the screensaver of xp wil work (but the mouse and keyboard don't work) can i do somthing about this?

If i want to install windows xp from the CD as STANDARD PC i wil get a BAD_POOL_HEADER

can someone help me please?

Post by **garyb** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:48 am

just install acpi. there's no need for fancy.

after you install the os from scatch, there are a couple of things to be sure of to avoid frezzes. the scope card must have it's own irq and the keyboard controller must not output active sensing. if there is active sensing you must disable it.

repartition, format, reinstall the os and then i'll help you......

flexxer · Post by **flexxer** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:38 pm

IRQ 0 Systeemtimer OK
IRQ 1 Standaardtoetsenbord (101/102 toetsen) of Microsoft Natural PS/2-toetsenbord OK
IRQ 8 Systeem-CMOS/Real-timeklok OK
IRQ 9 Systeem dat voldoet aan Microsoft ACPI OK
IRQ 12 Microsoft PS/2-muis OK
IRQ 13 Numerieke-gegevensprocessor OK
IRQ 14 Primair IDE-kanaal OK
IRQ 15 Secundair IDE-kanaal OK
IRQ 16 Intel(R) 975X PCI Express Root Port – 277D OK
IRQ 16 NVIDIA GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM) OK
IRQ 16 Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port - 27D0 OK
IRQ 16 Intel(R) 82801GR/GH/GHM (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port - 27E0 OK
IRQ 16 Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller OK
IRQ 17 Intel(R) 82801GR/GH/GHM (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port - 27E2 OK
IRQ 17 JMicron JMB36X RAID Controller OK
IRQ 17 Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27C9 OK
IRQ 18 Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27CA OK
IRQ 19 Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port - 27D6 OK
IRQ 19 Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller #2 OK
IRQ 19 Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27CB OK
IRQ 20 Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27C8 OK
IRQ 20 Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 27CC OK
IRQ 21 Creamware Pulsar OK
IRQ 22 Creamware PulsarSRB OK
IRQ 22 Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 27DF OK
IRQ 23 Creamware Scope OK

Which of these (IRQ) devices can i shut down to have all my creamware cards on a unique IRQ (i use an extra external usb dvd burner usb dongle from cubase and 1 externel usb hard drive)

Post by **garyb** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:14 pm

you may not be able to. likely, the sata controller won't make any trouble. are you in acpi or standard mode?

one thing, are you using raid? if so, why?

otherwise, this will probably work.

next, is the software and midi thing.
with scope running, put a midi monitor in the routing window, open it and check for "active sensing" messages coming from your midi source module(with your keyboard controller connected to the proper cable on the whip, of course). if your keyboard is sending active sensing,disable it in the controller if possible or, put a midi filter in the routing window and connect it between the midi source and sequencer midi dest modules to filter those messages.

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:37 pm

Hi Kenneth,
just thought, your new system is scope proven?!

Is there a reason, why your system-builder took another mainboard than recommended?
Seems like "having clients with scope" is not tha same like "building scope-compatible daws"

Just hope, you will find a solution, give me a mail if there is no success..

What about heat inside?
(Just check Scope temperature, if you can cook egs, it´s too hot!)

Active Send is another point, but in this case, the freezing should comes within minutes...

Post by **garyb** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:50 pm

Andre should be able to help. he's got lots of experience.

flexxer · Post by **flexxer** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:21 am

ANDRE D the system works fine now the last thing i did to make the system work completly stable (no joke) install anticrash 3.6.1 then i let anticrash change the cubase exe permenent so it would work more stable.

My system works in ACPI MPS PC mode so it is still really fast
i know i know STANDARD PC wil make my pc even more stable

i know this system wasn't tested yet but it was the fastest around that's the reason
In my system it is NOT possible to have 3 (15dsp creamware cards) only 1
but you can get 3 but then the motherboard cables must be changed
and you will need a proffesional for that
the harddisk are built in silentmaxx hd dämmung so they are really silent.
the inside is of the pc is built with rubber layer to make it more silent

there are 3 big and really mean big fans in my system so it won't get hot and
the case is a cooler master mystique is receives are from the front lower side
and it blows out hot air from the top side and that is the perfect airflow so there are no problem with heat also because the case is quitte big.

i don't know if i am using raid for sure but i think i am because in device manager i can see scsi / raid controller and i just talked to somebody from technical support who said i could not disable that device cause then my system would not start

THE SYSTEM IS STILL WORKING NO FREEZES BECAUSE OF KILL IRQ DEVICES AND ANTICRASH 3.6.1 YEEEAAAH (but still testing keep you up to speed)

katano · Post by **katano** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:29 am

what a configuration if you need a tool called anticrash!?!?

/ironic_mode_off

cheerz
roman

flexxer · Post by **flexxer** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:44 am

it takes longer till pc freezes but is still freezing so the to make the pc the most stable i'm installing windows from scratch

in pc standard mode i think this will work or else i'm gonna punch somebody in the nose

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:48 am

flexxer wrote:ANDRE D the system works fine now the last thing i did to make the system work completly stable (no joke) install anticrash 3.6.1 then i let anticrash change the cubase exe permenent so it would work more stable.

My system works in ACPI MPS PC mode so it is still really fast
i know i know STANDARD PC wil make my pc even more stable

i know this system wasn't tested yet but it was the fastest around that's the reason
In my system it is NOT possible to have 3 (15dsp creamware cards) only 1
but you can get 3 but then the motherboard cables must be changed
and you will need a proffesional for that
the harddisk are built in silentmaxx hd dämmung so they are really silent.
the inside is of the pc is built with rubber layer to make it more silent

there are 3 big and really mean big fans in my system so it won't get hot and
the case is a cooler master mystique is receives are from the front lower side
and it blows out hot air from the top side and that is the perfect airflow so there are no problem with heat also because the case is quitte big.

i don't know if i am using raid for sure but i think i am because in device manager i can see scsi / raid controller and i just talked to somebody from technical support who said i could not disable that device cause then my system would not start

THE SYSTEM IS STILL WORKING NO FREEZES BECAUSE OF KILL IRQ DEVICES AND ANTICRASH 3.6.1 YEEEAAAH (but still testing keep you up to speed)

...standard-pc mode is just useful for old mainboards.
anyway, raid is useless for audio, it just leads to higher cpu-charge...
I´m running 90 Audiotracks (stereo, 44,1, 32bit Float) on a single sata drive without charging any extra buzz.

flexxer · Post by **flexxer** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:53 am

So is should not install windows in standard pc mode ?

And if not how do i stop the freezing of the pc in acpi mps mode?

katano · Post by **katano** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:30 am

it could also be a defective hardware component, motherboard, ram, psu, grafics...

i had random freezes on my machine a year ago, finally the motherboard was changed, and all went good... luck it was warranty...

good luck
roman

flexxer · Post by **flexxer** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:43 am

the crashes aren't random only crashes when playing a song in cubase sx
but i will give the hardware an extra check

Post by **garyb** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:14 am

i thought i gave you the hint, no?
don't choose anything at windows install. not acpi mps, not standard, nothing. just install it normally.

check for irq conflicts and fix as nessessary. check for active sensing and filter if needed. if the hardware(motherboard, video card, ram) is not damaged and the latest drivers are properly installed(motherboard, video card, etc) it will and must run properly.

flexxer · Post by **flexxer** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:30 am

Ok i installed windows normally and now as we speak i'm checking if it freezed
My bios was overclocked and i had to put the bios defaults back so i hope the system will run without freezes please god help me

IRQ 21 Creamware Pulsar OK
IRQ 22 Creamware PulsarSRB OK
IRQ 22 Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 27DF OK
IRQ 23 Creamware Scope OK

The only device sharing is the srb and the ultra ata storage controllers

i will also check for all the latest drivers for motherboard and videocard etc.

i hope it works now

Post by **garyb** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:21 pm

me too!

flexxer · Post by **flexxer** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:30 am

did everything you said but the machine still freezes i wil also check the memory but i don't think that is the problem because then the machine would not only freeze when using cubase sx 3

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:46 am

is there anything connected to a cw-midi input?
if yes, just disconnect and try again..

..had a very nice new year day in amsterdam, by the way

flexxer · Post by **flexxer** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:08 am

the only midi device connected is a midi keyboard but the power was of when i get the change to test it i wil disconnect it anyway.
and run the test al over again

the only board sharing an irq is the srb so i will remove it and test again
i heard that someone used 3.1b drivers i will test that too.

by the way cool that you came too amsterdam with new year but in germany they sell great firework

flexxer · Post by **flexxer** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:44 am

Do you think the 3.1b drivers wil work with scope 4.0?