Bottom line, if I wasn't a patch programmer, and didn't want to mess around with Modular, I would probably not buy Flexor. Of course it's 'overpriced', if you don't have any need for it. Of course, to me, 99 euros or so will be a joke compared to the functionality (hope there's some more MIDI functionality especially). You can't equate Flexor 1->2 to Cubase 1->2. In that case, Adern would have to fix all the bugs in Flexor 1 and introduce new ones for Flexor 2saskija wrote:piddi wrote:saskija wrote:But 200 euro for the whole package is a lot of money, especially if you all you need it for is to be compatible with all modular patches on this site. I've checked out Flexor 1 a couple of times but decided to wait for a new version with more modules for a better price. But I guess now I'd have to pay $200 euro to be compatible with all modular patches which makes Flexor even less attractive for my purposes since I'm not a patch programmer but a user.
and I have had soo much fun already with the distortions from Flexor1.ReD_MuZe wrote:Flexor 1 had 11 filters
Flexor 2 has 31
this is the kind of ration you can expect from flexor2
big bang for the buck.
and yes, new ocillators, new envelopes, LFO's sequencers, more ganular effects, lots of new shapers and distortions, more tools and modulators... fun fun fun!!!!
valis wrote:Some of you may have seen Red Muze mention in the past that he builds these tools for his use in his own musical production (he makes his living producing other artists, and these tools play a major role). You might also have seen an announcement for Flexor2 some time ago, and have been patiently waiting all the years since. If one were to read between the lines here it would become apparent that while Red was busy with his own work and life and didn't have time to give the Adern spit & polish to his creations so that they're marketable, development of his tools has never ceased and he still uses them daily.
And since I've discussed these matters with Red, I happen to know that the price of Adern products have never reflected commercial needs or desire for profits but Red Muze's attempts to make his tools reasonably available to us all. So while most companies would be focused on generating profit from their products and have released v3 or even v4 by now, the small group that is Adern has only finally just had the free time to polish things up for a new version which we obviously still call v2 (since 1.5 was free!). If it helps those who feel the price is too much, just ignore the version numbers and think of this as another 3 years of development on a tool that has been 5-6 years in the making overall.
This is not a stupid idea!!! It could be very useful to recognize the different Flexor versions... i.e. I hate that ModII & ModIII modules has the same design!strav100 wrote: or perhaps 'Flexor Gold' with panels in nice brushed gold instead of silver
On the contrary, in order to equate with Cubase, Adern would not bother to fix outstanding bugs before moving on to the next chargeable update (which would, of course, introduce new ones!)Liquid Len wrote:saskija wrote:piddi wrote:
The 'dropping of levels' with increased resonance is usually associated with ladder filters, aka "moog" style filters. Some of the Flexor 1.x filters have a 'FAT' slider which will eliminate this loss of low level as you increase the level of the slider (similar to some of the filters on Logic's instruments & samplers). As for the v2 filters... you'll just have to wait & see.decimator wrote:I'll hold my breath till March / April !
Great news after many years starving !!
Flexor is the greatest bang for the buck I'am aware of, in the range of Warp69 verbs and more.
I hope though the resonance of previous and coming filters has been increased and less dropping levels when you increase resonance.
