Nord Modular G2 Vs Modular III + Flexor

Stompa81 · Post by **Stompa81** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:57 pm

I have only just got into Modualr Synthesis Since Buying my Scope Project Card, and I have to say Im addicted.

I have checked out the Nord G2 modular ,There doesnt seem to be as many modules that come with the Nord compared to CW MODiii, then add flexor on top of that and it seems CW leaves the nord for dead.

I would be interested to hear the Nord in action, so I thought Here would be the Right place to ask the following Questions :-

1) What are the Major Technical Differences Between the Nord and CW modular platforms ??

2) Is there any Sound quality Differences between the two ??

3) Are there any 3rd Pary Module's available for Nord ??

4) Is there anything like DrumOSC in Nord G2?

5) If there is someone here with both of these systems , have you got any audio clips of sounds you have designed with Nord??

Mod III+Flexor does everything I could dream of and more, If the nord can give me some additional possibilites in the modular realm,I would consider being an owner of a G2 engine.

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:05 am

I used to have an older nord mod.. and I don't use flexor, but consider myself to be one of the more seasoned cw mod users. Anyhow, I can't tell you the details about the G2's sound, etc. But to me, it seems like the nord stuff is much harder to break in terms of software. Even with the old nord mod software, I don't think I've had any big issues with the software itself. Whereas with cw mod I'm constantly trying not to make dumb moves to cause the preset bug, or just get a mod III crash in general. prehaps it's gotten better in the newer OS version, I'm not sure.

I think a mod hardware synth is still cool to have though, if you have the cash. The G2 knobs are way cool anyway. lol. I also think nord still has the mod the more straight forward way, as opposed to CW's mod being full of tricks and workarounds, and using modules in not so apparent ways.

JLS · Post by **JLS** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:58 am

Hi

I using both platform CW Mod I II III + Flexor1.5 and Nord Modular G1 + G2engine. Both platform is great but absolute not comparable.

point 1. - diferent dsp chip and architecture

point 2. - not comparable both platform is produce great sound. G2 is more digital sound. CW is better analog sound.

point 3.- Nord not use 3rd party modules - not free and comercial SDK (new OS = new modules, bug fixes and functions

point 4. - yes two module percsionOSC and drumOSC module ( not sample module )

point 5. - sound example and great diskusion forum www.electro-music.com www.clavia.se

Kamil

P.S. sorry my very bad English

Stompa81 · Post by **Stompa81** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:26 am

kensuguro wrote: I think a mod hardware synth is still cool to have though, if you have the cash. The G2 knobs are way cool anyway. lol.

I might just have to buy it so it looks cool with the rest of my stuff

megerov wrote: P.S. sorry my very bad English

Your english is probably better than mine ("Me Fail English?? Thats unpossible")

Thanks for the Info guys , very interesting stuff , may just have to save some pennys to get one of these Bad Boys. The G2 Engine Seems to be a pretty reasonably priced unit.

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:22 pm

yeah, hehe. save LOTS of pennies.

one thing that's cool about mod stuff is that it's not so much the platform, but the concepts you use to build things that matter. (given you have enough freedom) Sort of like programming. So once you get comfortable with the concepts, it's easy to move back and forth, and get the same things accomplished. Different in detail, but same in concept / theory, that kinda thing.

Stompa81 · Post by **Stompa81** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:52 pm

Thats the Exact Resaon I have become addicted to modular. I hate using samples of kicks etc etc (for hardcore / hardstyle), Modular seems the best way to be original and to get the phattest sounding kicks and bass for the styles i like!! And its soo much eaiser than tryiing to layer lots of samples, and sounds soo much better.

I cant believe its taken me 5 years to stumble across modular! I have asked soo many people how to make big kicks and bass, and its always the same response "layer samples, eq, fx etc etc.." what a load of rubbish, yes you can get a "GOOD" result with samples. But creating something From scratch In modular gives me the endless possibilites i have been looking for .. And rather effortlessly at that , with a sound quality that no ammount of sample layering could ever achieve

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:49 am

check out some of my old patches for perc building if you're interested:

snare
http://www.planetz.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... ight=chopp

kick
http://www.planetz.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12931

Stompa81 · Post by **Stompa81** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:20 am

Very Interested

Going to check them out now.

I still use Samples for Percussion, but i Chuck them in a Sample Drum OSC so i can process them with all that modular goodness!!

Edit -

yay,I am now a Pulsar geek

katano · Post by **katano** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:51 pm

Hehe, I think you're already a Totally Obsessed Pulsar Geek!!

Are you ready to buy more DSPs?

Cheers
Roman

Stompa81 · Post by **Stompa81** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:37 pm

stardust wrote:real modulars are a tease by nature and sound unmatched.
Modular on scope is polyphonic and flexible in one, that's why it is unique to me,

By real Modular Im guessing your meaning actual physical modules like Ive seen on the latest NAMMM website musik messe pics. These will not be in my price range for a long time to come, but i can always dream to have them

So a Nord G2 would not be counted as Real modular??

katano wrote:Hehe, I think you're already a Totally Obsessed Pulsar Geek!!
Are you ready to buy more DSPs?

Cheers
Roman

You can change my title to that if u want , Im A pulsar Geek and I am totally Obsessed so its fitting

Yes now I have Caught the Modualr Bug it would seem I could do with At least another 14 DSP,

I can Design the sounds and then sample them but I would rather not have to do that. I would rather have the Ability to tweak modualr as its recording or automate with cuabse to give a bit more expression to the tune.

I was think of waiting till the Soniccore PCIE with 20 TigerSHARC DSP's is released before buying more dsp (

HAHA I just made that up , but it would be nice )

On a more serious note I am interested in another Project Card with PLUS I/O on it to give me some balanced goodness

but i will post that in the appropriate forum

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:53 pm

stompa , just check out the nord demo for yourself....

http://www.soundservice.de/texte/news/norddemo.htm
it runs native on every PC.

Stompa81 · Post by **Stompa81** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:16 pm

I musnt be very good at using google because i couldnt find anything like this.
Will go have a look now.

Thx mate

Joxer the Mighty · Post by **Joxer the Mighty** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:35 pm

I used to have a Nord G2 but got rid of it. The sound just didn't move me. I know lots of people love the Nord sound, but I thought it was a bit cold and sterile. To my ears Mod III + Flexor sounds much better. What I did like about the G2 was the software editor. Very clean, very stable. As someone suggested, you should download the software demo and give it a try.

Personally, I think you should use the money and start building an analog modular instead. As much as I love Mod III, a hardware modular is a whole different world. Give it a shot, you'll be hooked.

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:38 pm

Gotta agree with the sentiments here, the Nord is different, and is better at certain things. I've heard some very impressive physical modelling patches made for it. Likewise the Scope modular has other strengths... it feels and sounds more like a classic analog modular and is really powerful especially when you combine it with the Scope routing and add-on modules like Flexor and Wolf's MIDI modules. Have to agree with Joxerthemighty as well - put the money towards real analog !

erminardi · Post by **erminardi** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:33 pm

Joxer the Mighty wrote:Personally, I think you should use the money and start building an analog modular instead. As much as I love Mod III, a hardware modular is a whole different world. Give it a shot, you'll be hooked.

Yes, but monophonic, heavy, full of patch, not easy to switch from a sound to another... after the first time of experimentation & enthusiasm, it's easy to remain "freezed" around the last patch... for years... I know, I'm a bit lazy...

The sound is obviusly better than ModIII, but not so different, so the Creamware convenience (IMO) wins...

Joxer the Mighty · Post by **Joxer the Mighty** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:44 am

Yes, very good points erminardi! It's true, hardware modulars are not for everybody. I don't mind any of those things though, I looooove my modular. But one should definitely consider everything you brought up!

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:31 am

and we have to add that sharing presets wouldn`t be that easy in a forum like planetz with hardware modular synths

a picture thread!