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besides, i know that he's either an eu parliament member or us senator in disgiuse...(i can't tell which because of the disguise)
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MikeRaphone wrote:It's all good Zer,
and most of the stuff you post really makes me laugh, but it would be an extremely good idea to take off the picture of a certain prophet and a little girl, because muslims do not live in stone ages anymore, as a matter of fact there are top notch hackers among them waging e-war against various American government institutions, and i would really like to see this forum keep on going in peace(as it is my favorite place on the web) which will not be the case if one of them spots your post. That's one and very practical reason.
The other being it's an inflammatory post, and there's absolutely no need for it.

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I won`t do that. In fact this is a test... I citisize every monotheistic religion.
An fact is, in germany, in france, in holland, in great britain and i ndenmakr the most dangerous people for fredom and democracy are the muslims.
And yes they are in fact a bit behind...because the wahahabism is there live style. A quarter of all murdes in germany are honourkillings. And this is a fact.
I`ll never surrender.
Take a christian bible with you when you are going throug a city in Saudi Arabia and see for yourself.
The only thing which could better the situation is to be strict. Tolerance is only made for the rudes. When a female german judge judges the sharia and not agerman law, the the hole shithouse is ging up in flames. And when I see our government reacting I can`help puking. Give a dime ther and give a dime there....oh please you lovely hamas...drop no bomb in berlin we`re giving you 40 milliards ...and what are they doing with the money?
What are the fact of afghanistan? ahhh those honroable warriors of god...get to germans who are building up your infrastructure...kill one take care of the next...get the most out of it.. there comes the mercedes...just as it has been built only for you. No way! Point out what it is The only thing you can do if you`re a muslim is to take religion less serious which is impossible for the masses.
But I will never surrender! You may want to do it. Probably you like your wife at home wearing bags and shutting up. But that simply can´t go for the masses at leats not in a western country. And I´ll not surrender to that...uhhh..by the way...didi I point out, that since our troops are in afghanistan 97 % of all heroine and cocaine comes from afghanistan? Just count erverthig together it perfectly adds up.
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I'm sorry to say but you're missing the point.
No need to explain the right of freedom of speech to us, we know already :-)
I immediately knew this picture could give big trouble, and I just had to wait for the first post pointing that out (I let it to someone else).
Your 'courage' is gratuit, as it's Planetz (us, and in the end John) which carries the risk...which is a serious risk.
Would you post it on a site runned by yourself, with your phisical address on it?
...just make a try and ask John for advise...I know the answer already :-)


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don't touch planetz...
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Hmmm Zer,

Ok, here's the deal,
why don't you go to a local neonazi pub seek out the biggest dumbest skinhead and say to him "hallo, ich ficke deine mutti"? It's your right, right? Why don't you fight your "freedom of speech" war there?
I will speculate that it's because he would punch your teeth in and put his boot deep in your ass!
It's just to illustrate how meaningless this self righteous "i will never surrender" attitude is. There are loads of meaningful things you actually can do to promote tolerance and understanding between peoples and cultures. Posting stuff from your comfy room isn't all that brave and finally it also amounts to nothing in terms of real world. I don't want to go further down that road speaking derogatory about your mother under the guise of my god given right to do so, because I think you got the point, and you have enough wisdom to take your grudge against certain kind of violent and backward people elsewhere. There are morons in all cultures, nations and continents.

Sapienti sat

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MikeRaphone wrote:Hmmm Zer,

Ok, here's the deal,
why don't you go to a local neonazi pub seek out the biggest dumbest skinhead and say to him "hallo, ich ficke deine mutti"? It's your right, right? Why don't you fight your "freedom of speech" war there?
I will speculate that it's because he would punch your teeth in and put his boot deep in your ass!
It's just to illustrate how meaningless this self righteous "i will never surrender" attitude is. There are loads of meaningful things you actually can do to promote tolerance and understanding between peoples and cultures. Posting stuff from your comfy room isn't all that brave and finally it also amounts to nothing in terms of real world. I don't want to go further down that road speaking derogatory about your mother under the guise of my god given right to do so, because I think you got the point, and you have enough wisdom to take your grudge against certain kind of violent and backward people elsewhere. There are morons in all cultures, nations and continents.

Sapienti sat

Wish you all the best Zer
Well german nazis are working together with some of the muslim partys in the world because of their common jewish interests. Its a fact that leaders of our npd where at the holocaust conference in Teheran.
why don't you go to a local neonazi pub seek out the biggest dumbest skinhead and say to him "hallo, ich ficke deine mutti"? It's your right, right? Why don't you fight your "freedom of speech" war there?
Already done that although, this ere not my exact words". As far as I´m concerned I`m still a live. Go wih the cartoon in front of a T-shirt. thorug berlin-neukölln and you`ll get murdered. That's the main difference. Go with a hitler cartoon to a nazi pub and you porbably are earning nasty words. That`s all.
I think you don`t know what`s going on here. The war of the cultures is already happening. An I will not confess to the sharia. Not at any time. Multiculture simply doesn´t work without compromises of both sides.
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you may also want to check:

http://www.muslim-markt.de/

http://presse.zeit.de/pressemitteilunge ... 00377.html

by the way.. Turkey put down Attaturks reforms. I wonder why they all still have a picture of Attaturk on the wall.
Check books of orhan pamuk and why they gotten him into jail.
Check the mnurding of
Check books of Pinar Selek and others
Check publications of Ayaan Hirsi Ali and see what has happened to her.
Check what has happened to the norwegian Kadra
Those things are happening everyday in the EC.

There is no liberal Islam. And there won´t be one. Be part of it or get kileld, thats the message behind.
Nothing more to say about that.
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Free speech happens wherever people speak freely .Say what you want Zer .we might not always agree but then I'm just an arsehole as well .
Go Zer :)
I do not want to live in a wahabi society,or a mormon one . If anything, I want to live in a pagan one but hey ..who gives a shit ,believe what you want .
P.S.
I reckon z can handle iIslam and if we cant then we'll just have to reassemble somewhere else wont we, until they go away, and sooner or later they will go away because you cant be rigid and progress at the same time and they'll just be left behind ...again . just like the last time :lol: about a thousand years ago
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How many arab breakthroughs in the last thousand years ???? doh :roll:
we're not talking smart here
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you guys are still missing the point.
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skwawks wrote:Free speech happens wherever people speak freely .Say what you want Zer .we might not always agree but then I'm just an arsehole as well .
Go Zer :)
I do not want to live in a wahabi society,or a mormon one . If anything, I want to live in a pagan one but hey ..who gives a shit ,believe what you want .
P.S.
I reckon z can handle iIslam and if we cant then we'll just have to reassemble somewhere else wont we, until they go away, and sooner or later they will go away because you cant be rigid and progress at the same time and they'll just be left behind ...again . just like the last time :lol: about a thousand years ago
Paul
How many arab breakthroughs in the last thousand years ???? doh :roll:
we're not talking smart here
The problem is not if you can handle the islam, the problem is if the islam can handle you. The rules are strict and given and accept only one leader (see q'ran) wahabism is the trend in germany, holland, denmark and many other countries in the EC. What they are doing in their home countries is absolutely their busines, what they're doing here is mine. I can`t accept killing people for honour. I can`t accept religious traditions in school and education.
When they invite musllahs from all over the world to preach jihad in my country and are preaching we`re dirty , don´t wash us and do not shave us, I even could laugh about it, but then they started beating up people to death, just for that.. Then other solutions are in need to be made.
Another thing: I do habe some islamic friends, although you have to doubt it. But what they have in common is they take religion less seroius, for what they are punished by their families and people of their nationality (or original home countries) which give their living special hardness. And the do respect live in gerneral.
When it come to the nearer east, please tell me, which islamic republic is a demcoracy?

The arabs are not in need of a breakthrough. They simply wouldn`t sell us their oil. All western governments know that fact and its consequences. That`s why even in a synthesizer forum in america the posting of mahammed cartoons has been made impossible and every country is paying protection money in order to avoid heavier consequences.
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respect Zer, great move (I'm with you regarding regretting removing. in case we were a paper or something it would be very differently).
cheers, huub
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That's the point, where i wasn`t too consequent, yes...but only for the respect of John. Because Stefan pointet out the forum rules. Perhaps I should send some time making my homepage a homepage and just refer to there...But if someone is missing my post he can find everthing here. Just click on the images.

By the way did I mention
http://infowars.wordpress.com/2007/09/2 ... #more-1092
?

And I forgot to mention Theo van Gogh.
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zer is leading the hijack-o-meter!
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sweet little norwegian reporter interviews James Oddo...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1iNH7W9SC8
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allthough the webpage in his sigature is full of shit :)
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Hey Zer...we all need "breakthroughs " or we stagnate . I dont really believe in "peak oil" , I've heard it all before, and I'm a little bit sceptical still about our part in global warming . But if the culmination of those things is to reduce our reliance on imported oil then that would be a magnificent breakthrough wouldn't it . I dont hate arabs at all or persians or babylonians ,it's just that I dont think they are really important enough in the scheme of things that we have to worry about what they think about what we say, because quite frankly I reckon they've got enough problems of their own to worry about before they can get around to telling us what we do wrong . So.... have these multi billions pouring into the region resulted in the deserts greening ...no . have there been any startling advances in solar power in an area thats made for it arrived ...no ,in short has there been any forward thinking in the region ...NO.
just a repeat of the victim mentallity powered by big bucks ...it's just so friggin sad to say a peoples opportunity pissed up against the wall in a totally self indulgent way and I think it's about time the middle eastern people bloody well woke up to it :cry:
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i don't think most of the middle eastern people have any more choice in this conflict than the average "westerner". in fact, i'd say many of them have less choice.
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Thats right Gary....thats the point !!!!
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Respect Zer,
you have shown wisdom, it's a rare quality these days!


Peace

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islamic extremists have a role to play. as you said, they are neither censored, nor poor. it's the followers that are poor and ignorant and sooner than later, dead.

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