Full Creamware 2002 NAMM brochure

helldriver · Post by **helldriver** » Fri Jan 25, 2002 7:01 am

What´s gonna happen with the ones who didn´t buy the pro pack for pulsar 2. Will they get the things I just have read in the namm brochure (Mixer package 1,synth package1&2,mod2, etc).
I´m just curious.

Stefan

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Fri Jan 25, 2002 9:43 am

Yeah, like also the PulsarMixer, we paid specificaly for it in the propack, and now everybody will have it in mixer packages for free? The Modular2 also, the STS3000 also??? What will i get for compensation? The STS3000 with real time feature would please me very well, and for the price, i'd also like the VDAT very very much!

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Fri Jan 25, 2002 9:50 am

Well remember new Pulsar2 cards have been coming with free ProPack (and will continue to come with free ProPack). The grid pictured above mentions nothing of existing users, so any reply besides one from Creamware would just be speculation.

Michu · Post by **Michu** » Fri Jan 25, 2002 12:22 pm

Sub,

judging by this grid, new luna and powersampler cards will come without any mixers and fx.
now what should we think about it?

Sonic · Post by **Sonic** » Fri Jan 25, 2002 12:27 pm

I agree with Spirit, there's really some development on Pulsar platform. In my opinion that's necessary as competition is growing with comparable dsp cards. Waldorf is already porting software to tc card...

Mac Displays are probably used for the same reason they are used in furniture catalogs and magazines - they just look cool. ;=)

Sonic

Air_PoLLo · Post by **Air_PoLLo** » Fri Jan 25, 2002 1:53 pm

Check hitfactory studios (u.s)!
do you think they use apple screens for their look? lol
Macintosh transmits a possitive wave to your brain making it work more artisticly.
(I'm not a total mac freak; I own 2 PC's too) eheh.

Ciao.

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Fri Jan 25, 2002 2:59 pm

I agree with you sub, i was just hoping someone had an insight..

Anyway, i hope they'll do something good for us...

EarlyFirst · Post by **EarlyFirst** » Fri Jan 25, 2002 8:53 pm

On 2002-01-25 12:22, Michu wrote:
Sub,

judging by this grid, new luna and powersampler cards will come without any mixers and fx.
now what should we think about it?

Well look closely they all come with the main studio tools package as well as VST integration.......

so that should answer your question( if I'm correct, which I do NOT know if I am) You will get what you have now _plus_ XTC mode and the live bar(if your using Luna) if your using Pulsar I do not know if you will get the new packages as we have seen only NEW cards get the new stuff... it's not like they are hindering it at all, just giving you the choice as to what to add.....

Which is very cool as all software can be updated at the same time as they will share a common install....
hope the key page at install doesn't take the whole screen

[ This Message was edited by: earlyfirst on 2002-01-25 20:55 ]

Michu · Post by **Michu** » Sun Jan 27, 2002 5:23 am

Well look closely they all come with the main studio tools package as well as VST integration.......

doh, my bad, i need better glasses...

sorry.
Paul, can you tell more about your new verbs? Relations of lucky ones that can test them are very promising.

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Tue Jan 29, 2002 2:36 pm

On 2002-01-25 13:53, Air_PoLLo wrote:
Check hitfactory studios (u.s)!
do you think they use apple screens for their look? lol
Macintosh transmits a possitive wave to your brain making it work more artisticly.

Yeah, and it also makes you like the gui.. even though I actually hate DP3's interface, it makes me feel as if I'm doing something really fashionable. Like designing modern jewelry or something. hehe. The Mac beam.And with screen looking very thin and fragile, it keeps me from bashing it when it hangs. Incredible!

rhythmaster · Post by **rhythmaster** » Mon Feb 04, 2002 5:09 am

Great!

I have a Pulsar XTC and a Luna. If it's true what I've read then this upgrade really kicks ass!

But one thing is not quite clear: The people who bought the propack for Pulsar V3.0 will now get the software for free?!?!?!?!
That's a strange fact but it seems Creamware decided to make this new product-line not so long ago - as a "strike back" against T.C.'s Powercore.

h

darolek · Post by **darolek** » Mon Feb 04, 2002 6:07 am

On 2002-02-04 05:09, rhythmaster wrote:

But one thing is not quite clear: The people who bought the propack for Pulsar V3.0 will now get the software for free?!?!?!?!

Probably they will get a larger kit of tools (Mixer Package I + Effects Package II + Synthesizer Package II + Modular 2 + STS3000). As for now an every new buyer of a Plusar card (in shop) gets a ProPack key for free, then from premiere of Scope Fusion new buyers will get a larger "starter" kit as a free bonus. That's my supposition only

darolek · Post by **darolek** » Wed Feb 06, 2002 7:59 am

On 2002-01-25 07:01, helldriver wrote:
What´s gonna happen with the ones who didn´t buy the pro pack for pulsar 2. Will they get the things I just have read in the namm brochure (Mixer package 1,synth package1&2,mod2, etc).
I´m just curious.

On the Creamware forum Ingo Raven (from CW) wrote:

"The idea is to leave the devices as they are, which means Pulsar users without propack have (more or less) the same devices as now while the Propack FX and PulsarMixer will be for new users and propack users."

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Wed Feb 06, 2002 9:13 am

It's the 'more or less' that scares me!

[ This Message was edited by: marcuspocus on 2002-02-06 09:14 ]

bassdude · Post by **bassdude** » Wed Feb 06, 2002 4:44 pm

So from what Ingo's saying, you have to look at the matrix in the brochure from a NEW user perspective only. IE new users or users who have bought the propack will see the pulsar mixer when they install 3.1 but users who haven't bought the propack won't. This is the way I read it anyway.

helldriver · Post by **helldriver** » Thu Feb 07, 2002 5:22 am

In my opinion anyone without the propack should get the NEW MIXER and AT LEAST all the devices which they have in 3.01.
I bought my pulsar in June 2001 and feel a little upset about creamware´s update policy.
If I had bought my pulsar 2 months later I would have get the propack with its cool new devices. Know I have only the weak poison as registered bonus instead the propack.
I think that anyone who purchased a pulsar
(everybody payed a lot for creamware´s crack protection) should get at least the new mixer!

That´s just my opinion but I know to well
that customers are second best in a world of
more and more monopols!

Greets
Stefan

Post by **hubird** » Fri Feb 08, 2002 9:42 am

Hi, yes it's nice to see something mac!
but if you take a good look on the screen you still can see the 'empty' MacOS bar coming up with CW software.
I'm afraid indeed that for a real mac look we must wait untill a MacOS-X version... or OS-XI...

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Wed Mar 06, 2002 2:27 pm

I almost think this thread should be our first "sticky" thread, right at the top of this forum.. it really has cleared up most of the confusion!

Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Thu Mar 07, 2002 12:29 am

I am still a bit puzzled of, what I am going to get (and hopefully not loose).

I have Pulsar1 and sts4000 and nothing extra.

Another thing - maybe add a little warning at the title of the thread. Page 1 is 2,5MB. I have dsl, so for me, it is no problem, but I guess, some others with other browsers will think, the link is malfunctioning.

Immanuel

Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Thu Mar 07, 2002 12:57 am

On the Creamware forum Ingo Raven (from CW) wrote:

"The idea is to leave the devices as they are, which means Pulsar users without propack have (more or less) the same devices as now while the Propack FX and PulsarMixer will be for new users and propack users."

Can you give the title of the thread, where he writes that? I looked, but did not find it.

Immanuel