Classic Filter Delay - updated aug-15-2008

[hifiboom]

A new delay unit for all scope users here.

I has some advantages over standard delays.

Plus it comes in with a filter, so you can do nice stuff with it.

Actually its a bit of a filterbox combined with a delay with flexible routing options.

Its an early version, I have some more features, but I need more flexible GUI elements.

The LFO Speed knob has no function so far, but that is a known bug and modulation is not yet fully implemented.
The switch options should be more flexible in the final version, giving you all options that are posssible. But actually, I just had only a 3 way switch around.

Preset don`t work too until I have finished the device completly, because adding preset normally means, no new functions will come in.

No bpm sync so far too.

manual description may be added when its finished.

Hope you enjoy,
Boris


edit nov-10-2007:
-filter modes are updated and finalized.
-minor gui change
-manual added, for easier understanding
-LFO worked
-fixed a stereo pan bug

edit aug-15-2008:
- added midi input
- added presetlist

[the19thbear]

thanks!!!
waiting for next version, looks very cool!
thanks again

[faxinadu]

awsome!

mman would be great to have some url with all your devices sorted for easy download, so many treats!

cheers

[hifiboom]

hi faxi,
actually I have my url, go to my www

but I did not found the time to update it again the last time.
But soon or later you`ll find all my devices there for easy download.

following things I have in mind with the classic delay:

-pre drive, maybe it comes with the transistor distortion mk2 inside
-synced delay times, where you can input your bpm and....
-longer delay time
-more switch options for the filter settings

Should be nice for your goa style too, to freshen up any sound source.

kind regards,
Boris

[faxinadu]

cool,

my thought is basically to chain a few of those with some other fx on an audio source for massive drones.

[hifiboom]

yes thats the way I use it too.

try the following chain:

cw distortion (20-30% to crush the sound a bit)-> classic delay -> reverb (for example my plate)

now modulate the cutoff and resonance and you get great lush soundscapes ....

a filterbox would be another nice project, which I am interested in too.

I have the interpole and for ure i love it.

I really want to have tools for insert chain that can change and fatten sounds.
The modular is fine for such stuff, but personally I prefer devices which do a dedicaded task quickly.
Modular is good for experimenting but if you work on a project it needs too much time to try out different modular patches or even do a new one. And it is more instable than devs.

cheers

[Shroomz~>]

Lookin' good hifi.

Delays, just like gates, compressors & many other tools are something we just can't have enough of.

Preset don`t work too until I have finished the device completly, because adding preset normally means, no new functions will come in.

That's what I used to think as well, but it's actually not particularly difficult (or time consuming) to delete a preset list, add to your devices' parameter list, then recreate the preset list. It has to be done in a very particular way & order (as you know), but it doesn't take more than say 5 mins for a device like your filter delay.

regards,
Shroomz

[hifiboom]

Shroomz, you are partitially correct, let me explain,v

1, for me adding a preset list does also include adding some useful presets that show off the different sound possibilities too (lets say 20-30 presets for the filter delay)
Adding the list itsself for sure is easy but thinking about and designing useful presets may need more time.

and that is much more lost time, as the old presets won`t work when new features and PresetList are added.
Doesn`t make sense in my opinion.

2, its a pre version, and my workflow just is to finish the device and then add preset handling and designing presets too. With that in mind I stopped somewhere at designing the GUI and implementing the features I want. Here is where I want to continue at first.


3, I didn`t see a point for not sharing this pre version as its easy to understand and I think someone can live and use it without having presets at all.

I guess everyone has its own workflow at designing the stuff and thats just individual for each developer .

[hifiboom]

updated

-filter modes are updated and finalized.
-minor gui change
-manual added, for easier understanding

[Mr Arkadin]

i assume the preset button isn't working yet. The only thing is when i double-click the module to get the GUI, the GUI appears quite far off screen.

Other than that thanks for a lovely device (nice clean Rolandish lines).

[hifiboom]

yes the preset button is not yet functional.

but I just fixed the orientation bug....
please try it and give me feedback if it works better now.

edit 10 nov:

added lfo speed function
-> now all knobs work properly

fixed a stereo_pan bug, so delay was slightly left side in panorama

short minimalistic delay demo track attached

[dawman]

It works great and is very useful.

I love delays, so I am quite happy adding other ones w/ different features.

I like the graphics also, reminiscient of ARP's and Rolands.

Great Job, I await the preset function too.

[hifiboom]

the preset thing won`t be a big job, I could do it within half an hour.

But I till think about adding the tempo sync feature.... so that you can synchronize the delay to a variable tempo value.

That won`t be that easy because you have to take more then one variable into calculation, like ulli and samplerate which influence the sample per second values...
I has to be designed and test carefully to work properly.

I think about adding the feature only for 44,1 khz because I think very few people work at 32khz or 96khz.., but maybe many work at 48khz? ...mmmhmhhh....
......

[hubird]

I'd start with 44,1 and await possible requests for other values...
ulli is also a player? damn...

[hifiboom]

not sure yet, it may have a certain influence too.

Fact is: doing such a feature will take care and so like all other things that needs care take time.....

I guess very few people work at lower than 44,1 or higher than 48.

lets see....

[wayne]

I think bpm settings are dependent on ulli in many stock cw delays - 24 ms at 44.1 makes them accurate here.

[hifiboom]

exactly,
so i guess it has influence...

[hubird]

I think bpm settings are dependent on ulli in many stock cw delays - 24 ms at 44.1 makes them accurate here.

thanks for that
ideal in case latency doesn't matter

[Shroomz~>]

It's not difficult to implement a (currently in use) ULLI selector for delay time parameters like Warp69 has on his P100 reverb.

I should've put that on D-Trip as it would be a cool feature.... mmm

[hifiboom]

It's not difficult to implement a (currently in use) ULLI selector for delay time parameters like Warp69 has on his P100 reverb.

I should've put that on D-Trip as it would be a cool feature.... mmm

the selector itself for sure is no bigger problem.

but theorectically the ulli should not have an influence on the delaytime, only on the min delayytime you can apply.(IMO)

but actually the creamware long_stereo delay reacts strange on different ulli-setups.