re:vdat recording in 16 or 24 bit and dithering

Wired · Post by **Wired** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:29 pm

has anyone noticed when u use 24bit asio, and dithering before vdat, that there is no audio from the dither plug output?, and do most of u record 24bit in vdat? or 16?

arela · Post by **arela** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:40 pm

never used a dither plug

- i use 24bit for vdat both 48 and 44.1 kHz

Post by **hubird** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:55 pm

great general scope discussion...

borg · Post by **borg** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:43 am

Huub, if you take away all your forum police reports and off topic photo renderings, you have a total post count of 5... talk about poluting the forum.

Post by **hubird** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:16 am

and don't forget my smilie posts of the past!

Wired btw has a weird preference to post totally wrong.

Wired · Post by **Wired** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:14 pm

i know youlike drama, but where else do you post such a discussion?, ..and i haven't posted for so looong, how can you say "i have a habit of.....",obviously you live somewhere where there are too much car fumes

Post by **hubird** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:19 pm

Wired wrote:i know youlike drama, but where else do you post such a discussion?

drama or not, but the question is good

)

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... highlight=

So, it's even the most of your threads are in the wrong forum.
If you check out this list there's absolutely no doubt about the wrong addressing.

Your biggest problem seems to be that you confuse the general scope forum with the problem solving forum.
Not every problem or specific question you may have is a general scope discussion, usually and commonly they never are.
You even just puts typical (specific) questions in the subject, instead of opening a discussion.

Want some typical examples for the General Scope Forum?
Some are existing threads, some are not:
I'm not too critical, as you see:

- 32 or 64 bit processing on Scope
- first impressions with Scope (I'd say OT, but that's ok)
- The future of SC (tho from my own not my pref)
- VST vs. DSP sound quality
- A sequencer on Scope, yes or no
- no artical about SonicCore in magazins (not my choice...but ok)
- Scope needs more non-typical (non-substractive) synths
- An external Scope box with Firewire?
- GUI behaviour of SFP
- Scope needs stereo aux sends
- Opening a mac case (wrong by me, and stated as such in the thread)
- Stock devices, you like it a lot?
- Scope Snares/Percussion
- Tutorials...or stuff
- Is SFP mode time consuming?

etc., etc.
The accent in the General Discussion forum has obviously moved toward a tech forum.
I regret that. It 's under Planetz level.
But the list above goes much further, monsieux

nothing personally tho, you just asked

Post by **hubird** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:00 pm

borg wrote:Huub, if you take away all your forum police reports

I know what you mean, and I realize that negative side effect of my protesting against odd forum behaviour.
Yet I'm not after domination, which the police word suggests of course.

I like the debate, and I like good arguementing (preferrably with some humor).
The general scope forum by nature is a place for that.
Not anymore...

I will never have a problem with, say, Stardust in the mac vs. pc discussions.
There is some rhetorics and some fun, but it never crashes.

What I badly dislike tho is bad arguementation, and the absence of sense.
Wild posts don't make sense, and a lot of 'wild posts' make Planetz more mediocre, if you ask me.

I think posting specific problems in a general discussion forum is just ugly

Not (only) irrational or confusing, but ugly, as it is wrongly communicating, but that should be me.

I wish opening the general scope forum would show a nice list of relevant topics going on on the platform.
Keeping that forum clean would simply be more inviting to make new relevant posts or threads.

At the moment it's just a do what you want forum.
A good discussion of general scope subjects can hardly be found now.

Hope this makes sense a bit

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:37 pm

Wired, I haven't tried that ASIO24>dither>VDAT stream yet, but if that is repeateble it sounds like a bug eh. In scope, regular devices do not know where they get connections from, so the result should be the same from any source. If you split the output from the Dither to VDAT and another input (Channel or so), does Dither output something there?
I record in 24bit always, be it to VDAT, ASIO or Wave Dest.

borg wrote:Huub, if you take away all your forum police reports and off topic photo renderings, you have a total post count of 5... talk about poluting the forum. :P

Borg, you read my mind. But then again, you are borg ;D
Huub, let's not hijack another topic..

Post by **hubird** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:46 pm

yeah, right.
I'll use pm next time

chatting is the norm tho...

Wired · Post by **Wired** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:33 am

yes, the output of dither works just like it should without going into vdat, ...vdat just doesn't see the output of dither

borg · Post by **borg** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:16 am

Have you tried inserting a device between ditter and VDAT? something like SpaceF's switcher (Don't recall the exact name, but it is a device that has 2x8 inputs that can be switched, and 8 outputs (not that it matters, but it's made for VDAT operations and doesn't process audio and doesn't consume DSPs). You can maybe use it to 'bypass' the ditter bug.).

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re:vdat recording in 16 or 24 bit and dithering

re:vdat recording in 16 or 24 bit and dithering

oddball

Re: oddball

yes , atom