Scope 5.1 won't run (for me) at start-up on win 8 64 bit

[malcolmbarr]

Wierd issue this one.

I have set up my system as dual boot with Win 7 32 bit and and win 8 64 bit. Under the win 7 install, Scope 5.1 works fine. Under the brand new win 8 64 install, I cannot get Scope to run at start up after copying the shortcut to the start up folder. Scope runs happily when I double click a shortcut on the desktop. I have tried with the "active" start up project toggled off and on in Scope.

Under both systems, patchmixdsp for an EMU1212m runs fine at start up. I tried removing this for the Win 8 install to see if this is somehow stopping Scope from running at start up, and it made no difference.

Any ideas as to what I need to do to get Scope to run automatically at start up on Win 8?

[djmicron]

i'm not on windows 8, have you done it the right way?

there is some tutorial on how to add application to startup folder on windows 8, such as this one:

http://www.fixkb.com/2013/03/how-to-add ... ows-8.html

or this one

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/51 ... s-8-a.html

[malcolmbarr]

djmicron - thanks for taking the time to reply

Yes I have added this properly: I can see the scope shortcut in the task manager start up tab, and it all looks like it should work. But I don't get an SC icon in the taskbar at startup, and Scope does not start working until I manually start the app.

[malcolmbarr]

I just came across Dante's instructions at the link below for win 7 64, so will try this later:

http://www.hitfoundry.com/issue_11/tsg_mast.htm

[garyb]

it should work.

win7 and win 8 really shouldn't be autostarted because you need to run Scope "as administrator" for it to run corretly and running in that mode involves answering "yes" to the popup asking you if it's ok to allow Scope to make changes to the system. before placing a shortcut into the startup folder, right click on the desktop shortcut and choose properties. on the shortcut tab, click advanced. put a check in the box for "run as administrator".

[malcolmbarr]

I tried the changes to the registry suggested at the link above, and it still didn't work.

garyb - I had already changed the properties of the scope.exe to run as administrator - maybe I should change that back and give it a try.

[garyb]

no, that's not the fix.

are both partitions invisible to each other? probably not. the Scope shortcut you put in the win8 startup folder is probably pointing to the win7 files...

[malcolmbarr]

The dual boot is using two physically separate ssd's, not partitions on the same drive. And the shortcuts are pointing to the scope.exe contained within the windows 8 installation (I.e on the drive win 8 sees as the c drive).

[garyb]

gotta be a windows security thing...

[malcolmbarr]

If it is a security issue (certainly a good chance), I am having trouble understanding why patchmix dsp for the EMU1212m should autostart fine, but Scope will not.

[djmicron]

i noticed on windows 7 too that the -s switch doesn't work.

Have you tried a command like this(without the -s)?

"C:\Program Files\SCOPE XITE\App\Bin\Scope.exe"

the only difference is that scope will start normally without hiding.

[babaorum]

Yes I confirm I tried with the -s option and it doesn't work, it must be without the -s

[malcolmbarr]

Well I tried removing the -s option, and it still won't run at start up.

Really clutching at straws here, but the only thing I can think of is that somehow there is a conflict with stardock's "start 8" which I am also using (and which gives you back a windows start button in windows 8 ). Other apps auto start fine, however, so I really doubt that is it.

Its an annoyance I can live with I suppose.

[djmicron]

have you disabled startup project from scope control panel and from windows registry?

[malcolmbarr]

I have tried with the startup project in the scope control panel set to both "active" and with the check for that box removed, and it made no difference.

As for the registry, I have made the changes suggested by here for Windows 7 64 bit:
http://www.hitfoundry.com/issue_11/tsg_mast.htm

I am not sure what you mean by "disable startup in the windows registry" - as the steps above are designed to get Scope to start. Are you suggesting I reverse those changes?

[djmicron]

do a last try by removing any entry from the registry, disable startup project from scope settings and adding a batch file to startup folder.

The batch file is attached to this message, unzip it, then edit it with a text editor and change the scope.exe path to the right one for your system.

Verify that the batch file works by launching it(with scope closed) and see if scope starts, if yes, then add it to startup.

Then if it doesn't work like this, i have to think more...

[malcolmbarr]

djmicron - thanks for taking the time to help me, much appreciated.

I'll give this a try when I get home this evening.

[malcolmbarr]

Good news - djmicron your batch file works great - thank you very much indeed.

I am being a bit greedy now, but do you know how I can get the app to start minimised. I tried adding the - s switch but, as suggested above, that doesn't work.

[djmicron]

Glad it worked, about hidden mode, i can manually minimize scope to tray once started, but i have to investigate for an alternative way to let it do automatically.

I'll let you know if a solution will come