Scope NSA Offer : Scope 5.1/Modular IV/Prodyssey/Protone
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yep the j wire is the biggest problems with these keyboards
i thought the rev3 had the same pratt reed as the memory moog spring loaded
but maybe you got a rev 3 that had the jwire type as there are 2 different keybeds
the pro one only had the j wire
i got rid of mine years ago very un reliable compared to oberheim synths
but then again the moogs were un reliable to i just did a complete refit of a memory moog i had to add gold sockets and better quality silver wire ribbons becuase of bad tuning because theres no velocity or after touch keyboards i fitted a semi weighted fata keybed with a doepfer control thta goes to the midi interface which gives me velocity and aftertoch via the kenton internal midi cv kit
it makes the memory moog a totally different machine
the only prophets i own now is the prophet vs rack and the prophet 3000 sampler
i had a prophet vs keyboard but the after touch kept failing which was pita but the racks dont suffer from this
the scope dsp versions are good very close but the filter models are done by math and as any one knows its the components around the filter and opamps that add to the sound
john bowens prophet plus and his pro one emulation are great with the additional filters that the pro one never had
dave smiths morpho is the new pro one and you use your own keyboard to trigger it
i thought the rev3 had the same pratt reed as the memory moog spring loaded
but maybe you got a rev 3 that had the jwire type as there are 2 different keybeds
the pro one only had the j wire
i got rid of mine years ago very un reliable compared to oberheim synths
but then again the moogs were un reliable to i just did a complete refit of a memory moog i had to add gold sockets and better quality silver wire ribbons becuase of bad tuning because theres no velocity or after touch keyboards i fitted a semi weighted fata keybed with a doepfer control thta goes to the midi interface which gives me velocity and aftertoch via the kenton internal midi cv kit
it makes the memory moog a totally different machine
the only prophets i own now is the prophet vs rack and the prophet 3000 sampler
i had a prophet vs keyboard but the after touch kept failing which was pita but the racks dont suffer from this
the scope dsp versions are good very close but the filter models are done by math and as any one knows its the components around the filter and opamps that add to the sound
john bowens prophet plus and his pro one emulation are great with the additional filters that the pro one never had
dave smiths morpho is the new pro one and you use your own keyboard to trigger it
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Re: Scope NSA Offer : Scope 5.1/Modular IV/Prodyssey/Protone
Bud & jhulk, Thanks for your time, and the history lessons! For me, it's good to put these emulations into context, what features stood that model out from others, and maybe even what it's niche was at the time. Kinda like how a trumpet evolved from a bugle...it gives context for the sound of the instrument. I'm finding the Pro-1 sounds better layered with other instruments, as a sub-oscillator as it were.
Re: Scope NSA Offer : Scope 5.1/Modular IV/Prodyssey/Protone
cost the pro one was affordable by most the pro5 was not and still is not
but there are better cheaper alternatives to the pro one which cot £1000-1600 depending on condition
you can get a 4x morpho for £500-600 which is like having 4 pro ones on a keyboard for a 3rd of the cost
the waldorf pulse which has 3 analog osc is a killer machine and second hand can get for £200-300
no the minataur and minibrute both are good analogs with better features than the pro one
and the dsp versions are excellent in that you have poly
every one wanted the poly and to get it they had several of the same device being triggered by an analog poly keyboard which generated the cv and gate which is how you do it on real modular synths
thats why samplers like the mirage did so wellk as there start price was $2000 then went down to $1000
where the EII was $10000+
lots of stuff was popular because of cost as the big synths was only ever owned by big rock and pop stars or very rich people as you needed to take out a morgage to get one
but there are better cheaper alternatives to the pro one which cot £1000-1600 depending on condition
you can get a 4x morpho for £500-600 which is like having 4 pro ones on a keyboard for a 3rd of the cost
the waldorf pulse which has 3 analog osc is a killer machine and second hand can get for £200-300
no the minataur and minibrute both are good analogs with better features than the pro one
and the dsp versions are excellent in that you have poly
every one wanted the poly and to get it they had several of the same device being triggered by an analog poly keyboard which generated the cv and gate which is how you do it on real modular synths
thats why samplers like the mirage did so wellk as there start price was $2000 then went down to $1000
where the EII was $10000+
lots of stuff was popular because of cost as the big synths was only ever owned by big rock and pop stars or very rich people as you needed to take out a morgage to get one
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Re: Scope NSA Offer : Scope 5.1/Modular IV/Prodyssey/Protone
Well, thanks to Sonic|Core, I have the pro-one to play with in my XITE
And more importantly (to me) an ARP Odyssey!
Time to get some MIDI configs for all these synths so they can talk to CTRLR. Maybe if we did this methodically in a thread somewhere, it can be divided up in the community and done in no time.

Time to get some MIDI configs for all these synths so they can talk to CTRLR. Maybe if we did this methodically in a thread somewhere, it can be divided up in the community and done in no time.
Re: Scope NSA Offer : Scope 5.1/Modular IV/Prodyssey/Protone
Excellant well I don't have to write this review in ScopeRise from scratch, you guys doing it for me 

Re: Scope NSA Offer : Scope 5.1/Modular IV/Prodyssey/Protone
well if you need any help with the ctrlr panel let me know as i have done a few and did one for the sharc modular 14bit cc control
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Phew, gig money finally through, scored this even though it's the 22nd here.... love that dateline-extended deadline 

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dante wrote:Excellant well I don't have to write this review in ScopeRise from scratch, you guys doing it for me

Re: Scope NSA Offer : Scope 5.1/Modular IV/Prodyssey/Protone
Made coffee, sat back down - keyfile!
Ladies & Gentlemen - GaryB
Ladies & Gentlemen - GaryB

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Re: Scope NSA Offer : Scope 5.1/Modular IV/Prodyssey/Protone
i had no idea they had a deal going on.... well not going to pay 239 now, to bad
Hope they wil reopen the deal
Hope they wil reopen the deal

Re: Scope NSA Offer : Scope 5.1/Modular IV/Prodyssey/Protone
make sure you're in the mailing list of S/C, if possible.
Re: Scope NSA Offer : Scope 5.1/Modular IV/Prodyssey/Protone
Or maybe ask if you could still benefit from the offer AND be added to the mailings list.
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yeah, S/C is known as flexible in this regard...and they need the mony.
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Re: Scope NSA Offer : Scope 5.1/Modular IV/Prodyssey/Protone
I mailed them.. lets see what they can do. How could i missed this... still kicking myself against the head.
Re: Scope NSA Offer : Scope 5.1/Modular IV/Prodyssey/Protone
Modular IV has given me wings and I would pay another 350 for it if ever asked.
The 3rd party support is the most gratifying experience I have ever had from purchasing software.
To the DSP Warriors, Scope is their weapon,
Modular............
A way of life.
Professor Assaf Dar
2010 University of Resonance
Telaviv, Israel.
The 3rd party support is the most gratifying experience I have ever had from purchasing software.
To the DSP Warriors, Scope is their weapon,
Modular............
A way of life.
Professor Assaf Dar
2010 University of Resonance
Telaviv, Israel.
Re: Scope NSA Offer : Scope 5.1/Modular IV/Prodyssey/Protone
I just saw this offer when i got the NSA offer 2 .... life sucks sometimes ... 

Creamware Scope 5.1 (Scope Power Pulsar 1.01|3 x Pulsar II|Pulsar I|Syncplate), scope abuser since 2004.
Asus Z87-K C2|Intel Haswell Core i7-4770|Kingston KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX - 2 x 4 Gb Ram (1600 MHz)
13 MV @ Masterverb Test
Asus Z87-K C2|Intel Haswell Core i7-4770|Kingston KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX - 2 x 4 Gb Ram (1600 MHz)
13 MV @ Masterverb Test
Re: Scope NSA Offer : Scope 5.1/Modular IV/Prodyssey/Protone
no chance to have this deal for the latecomers ? 

Creamware Scope 5.1 (Scope Power Pulsar 1.01|3 x Pulsar II|Pulsar I|Syncplate), scope abuser since 2004.
Asus Z87-K C2|Intel Haswell Core i7-4770|Kingston KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX - 2 x 4 Gb Ram (1600 MHz)
13 MV @ Masterverb Test
Asus Z87-K C2|Intel Haswell Core i7-4770|Kingston KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX - 2 x 4 Gb Ram (1600 MHz)
13 MV @ Masterverb Test
Re: Scope NSA Offer : Scope 5.1/Modular IV/Prodyssey/Protone
Maybe just ask kindly