Brexit

[Nestor]

German train 'axe attack'

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36827725

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/07/g ... 31703.html

http://www.euronews.com/2016/07/18/man- ... o-station/

[pastor]

Clearly, we need new laws in Europe, to allow concealed carry of axes. If only one or two of the passangers had an axe on his hip or his anckle, this would never had happened.

[Nestor]

Bad enough:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQrmPaIXZFM

These are the people in power!!!

[Nestor]

A clear set of reasons we are in trouble, these are just "SOME" of them, perfectly well explained. How the hell needs more evidence thatn that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC3tINgWfQE

[hubird]

Relax Nestor, That guy of 17 was psychologically deformed by war, and influenced by internet shit of Isis.
Just like the guy in Nice, en the shootings in the US or elsewhere.
The rapers in Argentina are actually worse, as they are just 'normal' people, you see?

You're obviously deformed in the same manner as the guy in the train. Internet gives you what you are looking for.
Why don't you leave us Europeans alone, we don't need to be warned all the time for your armageddons

[Nestor]

It is spreading like fire...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK-Sdj2zL9I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHxNdevkqNU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zcMCbYRuEU

Small documentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5FIsmquQqA

[Nestor]

No one will ever be able to hide the sun with one finger...

[Nestor]

There we go:

Germany: One killed and 11 injured in Ansbach bar bomb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PFACiUmSPs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxi2keCs4c0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2mFziHtjPQ

[Sounddesigner]

There we go:

Germany: One killed and 11 injured in Ansbach bar bomb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PFACiUmSPs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxi2keCs4c0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2mFziHtjPQ

These attacks seem to be getting more frequent. I know there was other attacks in Germany recently that you did not list wich really show how frequent. Sometimes the attacks and other crimes are done by second-generation immigrants wich sort of blinds people to the problem since they are legal cirizens that were born in the Western country they are attacking. The male Mass killers in San Bernadino California and the Florida Pulse nightclub were both born here in the US BUT their parents were NOT. The hereditary problem should not be overlooked as well. We know for a fact that one of the parents of the Boston Marathon bombers had something to do with the childrens radicalization and the parent of the Pulse nightclub killer was quoted saying some extreme things.

Let me add to your list. Another attack just happened at a Catholic Church in France where two members of ISIS killed a 85 years old Catholic Priest and critically wounded another. To slit the throat of a 85 years old Priest shows that these sociopaths are completely immoral and have no problem with doing the most low-down things. One of the attackers was a teenager who tried to go fight for ISIS twice in Syria and the French Government caught him but gave him VERY little punishment (house arrest) thus have let their own people down.

But if you listen to the nay-sayers "all is fine" and "the world has never been better", and when a attack does happen it's some how us the Native citizens who are to blame and we just need to be more welcoming as a country. I can't believe we have government officials who are so insane they put their own people in harms way just for political advantages. A Government's # 1 job is to protect its people and all these attacks show that job and their ideology is not getting this done.

Here's the link to the ISIS knife attack in France on the 85 years old Priest that just happened - http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/07/26 ... rance.html

[garyb]

all false flag. even in the USA....

[Sounddesigner]

all false flag. even in the USA....

If by false flag you mean they were not truly ISIS members I would disagree. You don't have to receive commands directly from a radical leader or even attend a church/mosque/etc to be a member, that's not how religion works. Religion is acceptance in the heart and doing deeds in its name, that goes for all religions. My church broadcasts on TV and I've never attended it physically nor ever met my Pasture or any other main members but I do send in donations and am a member cause I believe in the doctrine being taught. Religion is a spiritual thing based on deeds and doctrine acceptance not worldly connections. The terrorists dirty deeds were done in the name of ISIS for furthering the ISIS cause, these are not the opinions of mine or likeminded people but the actual words of the terrorist. If you want to know why someone did something the best place to go to find out is that person that did the act not the media, politicians,psychiatrists, etc. I was always taught to get info straight from the horses mouth for the best chance at accuracy especially since only them and God know what's in their hearts no one else can truly state what's there. Religion unites by doctrine, deeds, movements, pledges, etc. What these terrorists are doing is the very definition of religious extremists and what further proves this is that sometimes it's hereditary. And IMV the only people that can truly tell you what they are and why they did the horrible acts is them and their heritage. Also ISIS has claimed them and their actions have helped further ISIS's movement/crusade.

ISIS determines who belongs to them and if one supports ISIS and ISIS accepts them they are by definition a member.


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[Nestor]

How sad what you say about this 85 years old man... this is crazy!

[garyb]

no Muslim would name an organization after a pagan Goddess, especially not a "fundamentalist" Muslim.

it hardly matters, though...people seem to be die anyway...

[Nestor]

no Muslim would name an organization after a pagan Goddess, especially not a "fundamentalist" Muslim.

it hardly matters, though...people seem to be die anyway...

This is an alighting point indeed! It could be called Jihad front or something like this. The hypnotism of the masses is so big… it could be called “Hillary made it”, and they will still think about something else…

[Sounddesigner]

no Muslim would name an organization after a pagan Goddess, especially not a "fundamentalist" Muslim.

it hardly matters, though...people seem to be die anyway...

ISIS is only a acronym that describes the religious group and their location. ISIS means: "Islamic State in Iraq and Syria". They are also called ISIL. It's just a acronym but even if it was paganism such practices always work themselves into all religions. USA is a Christian Nation by democratic majority and many Christians celebrate Easter wich is another form of the pagan goddess Ashter's name and easter-eggs are pagan practices relating to celebrating fertility and orgies. Last I checked Santa Claus and mistletoe are not in the Bible. Many of us grew up celebrating Christmas incorrectly but are still Christians. Paganism works itself into all religions and is not necessarily a criterion determining false or true. Different muslims accept and follow different things and all claim to have the true interpretation, likewise with Christians. What's paganism to one group of Christians is perfectly legit to another but all may still be Christians.

ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi knows more about Islam than the overwhelming majority of people in this world since he was raised in it and went to College for it, and was also a Preacher before forming ISIS. Below is info on his background:

QUOTE "According to a widely cited biography released by jihadists, “he is a man from a religious family. His brothers and uncles include preachers and professors of Arabic language, rhetoric and logic.” The biography and Arabic-language accounts claim he obtained a doctorate at Islamic University in Baghdad — which is presumably why several of his many aliases include the title “Dr.”

Holding degrees in Islamic studies and history, he is believed to have been an Islamic preacher around the time of the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq. The chaos of those months drove the 30-something into militancy, and he formed an armed group in eastern Iraq," END QUOTE



I assure you gary anyone who does what the 9/11 terrorists did and scream "God is good" while crashing a plane into a building truly is religious and believe they are serving God and doing the right thing. They are praising God while doing the horrific act wich is something they likely would not do if they did not believe. At that moment a pretense is not needed, and what is there is the true face.

It is that very religious element and its apocalyptic crusade that attracks many people to ISIS, Al-Qaeda, etc and without the religious element those groups would be far far less powerfull and attractive (the recruits generally are definitely religious). People have no problem with living, dieing, killing, etc for religion to a degree far greater than anything else. Our Government don't fully understand religion and thinks worldly means can defeat religious terrorists and other religious problems in the Middle East. Our Government has tried everything in the Middle East from military force to gifts of democracy to money but such worldly things have little influence on people who live for religion first. Religion before everything is insanity to our Government and they don't fully accept this notion or understand it and that's why they've had little success in dealing with it and that wich it produces.


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[garyb]

oh, i don't doubt that there are fervent believers...
yes, i know the history of "the Muslim Brotherhood", too.
so many assets in this world, it's just a matter of how you use them and to what purpose.

[Nestor]

Some people may be angry at the following assertions, well, I don’t care. Truth is truth and you cannot hide it for the sake of personal advantage and individualist dreams, such an attitude will signify too much egoism with the rest of the world, we are not alone in this world, we all are important or nobody is. Guys, we are facing new times… seriously!

If you think and analyze what I have been telling you for more than 10 years already versus your reactions against my ideas, and then you contrast all of it with the REALITY in which we are immersed by fact, you will be forced to tell me: “You were right”. If you like it or you dislike it, it doesn't make any difference. Reality is powerful and overcomes all our viewpoints. It doesn’t really matter what we believe, what matter is what it is.

I think that being optimistic it is extremely important in all order of things in life, it is wonderful and advisable. But being realistic is even more important than being optimistic. I am optimistic about how a few among us could eventually react to what is going on in the world, but realistically, I am dead sure this situation is going to get much, much worse in Europe than it is already today. First, there will be many immigrant killed by European residents, then the situation will become a mess and there will be a small civil war that will force many new laws in several countries over there, which is "exactly" what the elites want! In the USA may also happen the same, it is highly probably that a small civil war may start at any moment, particularly under the latest racial pressures. Its goal?, exactly the same one than in Europe, to spread police all over the place and make a police state in the streets.

[Nestor]

I shout loud and clear with all these people!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haBsoyrhtS8

[pastor]

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[Nestor]

Yeah..., nice actors, because politicians they are not!

The real politicians behind it all are not actors. You will never get to know them… they are well hidden behind the scene… yes… "the scene of the crime".