Want to record my outboard keyboard MIDI, to Cubase, how to?

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Sun Feb 22, 2004 8:32 pm

When I had Cubase 5.1r installed, I used to record my outboard keyboard, a Kong X5 ai2 Synthesis System, which I still love and use much. How did I do? I would first record everything into Cubase via MIDI, and then would connect the Outs of the X5, to my Pulsar Audio Ins, and so I could record the audio output into Cubase, that’s what I want to do again.

Long time has passed, I now have Cubase SX and I don’t remember how I did it, SX is different and don’t find the way out. How do you do to record your own outboard keyboards played through MIDI?

Any advices or methods appreciated, thanks.

interloper · Post by **interloper** » Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:47 pm

Same approach would work. Lay down your parts via midi, then connect the X5 outs to the Pulsar Audio In. Setup a Pulsar Analog Source and connect it to any Scope mixer, connect the ASIO Dest modules to the output of the mixer. Test your levels and adjust. Note that @ 24 bit you don't have to come in too hot, as you've got more headroom.

Setup your record boundaries, select the destination audio track in SX and start recording. You may wish to start the recording a bit earlier in SX, not right at the moment the X5 comes in, just in case.

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:58 pm

I've already done all this, but it doesn't seem to be enough. The MIDI does not get to the keyboard, then already recorded, I know it must be something very simple, but I can't get it yet.

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:10 pm

ok, heres what i do:

midi a source -> seq midi dest
seq midi source -> synth midi
synth outputs -> scope inputs
scope inputs -> ASIO Dest
2 tracks in cubase; MIDI and Audio
midi track to CW MIDI (be sure it transmit the right channel, check for midi signal)
Enable audio monitoring on Audio track.

that should be it if im not wrong. im not saying this is optimal, but it suits my needs. U can ofcourse route the audio from synth via the SFP mixer first.

good luck

mazyar · Post by **mazyar** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 7:49 pm

I am trying to do a similar thing I think.

I have attached my fps image in:

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... forum=21&5

Please let me know if that is the correct way of getting keyboard via Luna II card, to cubase.

I experiance a fraction of a second delay between pressing a key on keyboard and hearing a note via cubase... Not sure what i am doing wrong.

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:06 pm

Cheers Mazyar, but my problem is not in SFP, the connections are simple, the problem is with SX, which I don't know much yet... I have, as you, start doing tutorials and the like. Cheers anyway.

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:11 pm

as for the delay, i dont know if this regards SFP synths, vsti's or your hardware synth. anyway, a good place to start will be the ULLI settings in SFP, from "set" in the livebar.

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:17 pm

Nestor, if your connections is ok, midi should be trouble free from SX. Just make sure you are transmitting at right driver, right midi channel etc. do u see SX transmitting data? if so, can u reroute the SX midi data to a similar setup sfp synth, and does it work? they should be similary working, no difference.

If the sfp synths works, there is definatly an outboard prob.

oh, and u should check that u have activated correct asio inputs, and that the audiotrack u try to record to has monitoring enabled.

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Ecogen · Post by **Ecogen** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:59 pm

Unsure if know already! In the top left corner of sreen, a Icon of arrow pointing right, when pressed (blue) it opens the channel in/outs. It has midi 1,midi 2 to switch between. Try that

valis · Post by **valis** » Tue Feb 24, 2004 8:53 am

Also make sure you're aware of the 'midiportfilter' to remove unwanted [emulated] ports. Helps timing a lot!

mazyar · Post by **mazyar** » Tue Feb 24, 2004 9:01 am

Nestor,

are your tutorials on-line?

If you are interested in publishing them, I can refere you to my wife who used to be a desktop publisher and is very good at putting mauals and instructions together.

Regardless, I look forward to your tutorials, I am still somewhat lost.

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Tue Feb 24, 2004 9:33 am

I don't think they will be worth such time investment. Perhaps they will by the end, if I get MUCH help from the knowlegeable ones in here. But I'm going to tray my best nevertheless.

Kensuguro kidly offered my some FTP space, but I can't reach it, there are problems with his server. I'm waiting to get some space, or perhaps somobody else could offer a few megabites for pictures I need to upload for the tutorial, and then I will get started.

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:05 pm

There is something wrong with my configuration, perhaps it is the Keyboard itself, something I don't remember about the MIDI seput... I don't know...

interloper · Post by **interloper** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:08 pm

Seems like the problem is in your midi chain, look there. Can you record midi? Can you transmit recorded midi out to the keyboard (check the activity meter on the transport bar)?

Dumb question, but you have two midi cables connected to your keyboard?

borg · Post by **borg** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:59 pm

1. place a midi monitor just behind the 'seq midi source' module. you got data? ok then:
2. place a midi monitor parallel to the input of your 'pulsar midi destination', as your midi will be leaving SFP here. still got data? then it is something in your keyboard. you got everything set up ok there? maybe something like 'local off'. i remember having something like that in a keyboard/sampler. though i think it was for doing exactly the opposite. it's been too long...
just try to go further and further doxn the midi stream using midi monitors.