Subject: Zarg response
Well, Paul Tanti asked me what I thought about these Jr postings, and I said I didn't know anything about them...so he said to go to the PlanetZ forum pages, so here I am...and I'm REALLY surprised, because this guy is talking as if I have posted or responded to some messages before (all of your talk about 'crying', or whatever). This is really weird! What are you talking about? I have never read or posted to this forum at all...seems you've gone off on someone else's post.
Of course, since you claim to have purchased the bundle, and also made this complaint about wanting to trade back the Comb Pro for something, etc., I am wondering who you really are, and why you have never contacted me directly about any of this stuff that you have posted here? I mean, this just seems very surreal!
Anyway, so this is my first visit here ever (March 3rd), and I also did see finally the nice "thank you's" for the Christmas 'gift', and I appreciate the response.
Anyone who is as upset as this guy is, I would think you should contact the device maker about your frustrations, etc., and try to communicate instead of some rantings on a forum such as this.
All very weird......
-John Bowen
email me to trade devices
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Subject: in america there is no copyright or other law thet forbids t
in america there is no copyright law that staes one might not trade private property for someone elses.i may trade you an nsync album for a britney one.I am not reselling just tradeing one thing for another.i have not released to the world wich there are places to get all devices free.If you dont know where i wont tell you .It is true though and that is ill legal and against the contract.Do you use nappster or any other mp3.system.then your a worse thief because the music industr y is loosein about 65 million a year now because of napster and others no bs.and i dont listen to them because that is ill lega but to trade one mp3 for another is a swap and is legal in the full sense .so you wont get my trade but others will and you are here by left out.Your allso a pussy ffor not useing your real name or email.What dio you to hide .My names jr and you saw my email.my real name is jr.i dont hide and i have no fear and i welcome you lawyers or anyone to sue me.id be happy to appear just remember to bring every hard drive that has a device with my code on it to court.You cant just claim im doinfg this or anything else and the devices ai have go beyond you r wildest dream.Ive even cracked pulsar only devices like poison.The boys at creamware are good but the world hackers are better and as ive said there allready websites offering stollen devs.Its the way of the world but my devs i bought so i may do what i please and i please to trade up for new devs .
in america there is no copyright law that staes one might not trade private property for someone elses.i may trade you an nsync album for a britney one.I am not reselling just tradeing one thing for another.i have not released to the world wich there are places to get all devices free.If you dont know where i wont tell you .It is true though and that is ill legal and against the contract.Do you use nappster or any other mp3.system.then your a worse thief because the music industr y is loosein about 65 million a year now because of napster and others no bs.and i dont listen to them because that is ill lega but to trade one mp3 for another is a swap and is legal in the full sense .so you wont get my trade but others will and you are here by left out.Your allso a pussy ffor not useing your real name or email.What dio you to hide .My names jr and you saw my email.my real name is jr.i dont hide and i have no fear and i welcome you lawyers or anyone to sue me.id be happy to appear just remember to bring every hard drive that has a device with my code on it to court.You cant just claim im doinfg this or anything else and the devices ai have go beyond you r wildest dream.Ive even cracked pulsar only devices like poison.The boys at creamware are good but the world hackers are better and as ive said there allready websites offering stollen devs.Its the way of the world but my devs i bought so i may do what i please and i please to trade up for new devs .
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Subject: John Bowman and John Cooper - What do you think of this guy?
"Sharing" devices for "no money" with other people?
You're raising the prices for the honest people, whether you think it's "legal" or not, it is *WRONG*
Fact: Orbitone devices went up in price by AT LEAST 20% when they moved to the shop after people like you pirated them.
Fact: EVERYONE suffers when this happens, especially the developers, who become less motivated to make any new devices.
Fact: The Pulsar community is small(er) than other markets, and we want to ENCOURAGE these developers to keep making these devices available - AT ANY COST - to us, the end user.
Fact: WHAT YOU ARE DOING *IS* ILLEGAL, AND YOU CAN BE PROSCECUTED.
Fact: This guy also posted the same information on the Creamware Forum. Someone want to email Creamware, as they probably have all his personal information on file there?
"Sharing" devices for "no money" with other people?
You're raising the prices for the honest people, whether you think it's "legal" or not, it is *WRONG*
Fact: Orbitone devices went up in price by AT LEAST 20% when they moved to the shop after people like you pirated them.
Fact: EVERYONE suffers when this happens, especially the developers, who become less motivated to make any new devices.
Fact: The Pulsar community is small(er) than other markets, and we want to ENCOURAGE these developers to keep making these devices available - AT ANY COST - to us, the end user.
Fact: WHAT YOU ARE DOING *IS* ILLEGAL, AND YOU CAN BE PROSCECUTED.
Fact: This guy also posted the same information on the Creamware Forum. Someone want to email Creamware, as they probably have all his personal information on file there?
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Subject: well well
there are all of you devices even yours john all over the web for free allready.I wont tell you where but search its real easy to find,I dont post stuff on the web for free on warez sites wich pulsar is just gaing notice,They even have time craked pulsar devs demos and removed the 10 hour block.it works like a charm 2.I found this out not long agao.It started in england by a friend hacker who i challeged but not to get them for free myself but i told him of there time lock out and he laughed at it and then made a exe thats been posted to the world.Not my prob.I was merely tradeing this for tyhat.What must i pay you twice cause i think combo plus pro suks and i want to get rid of it.Will you please give me my money back.Please I want my money back.I think this synth lacks in all areas and im out my money .so either maill me 199.dollars or shut up.You cant say im stuk with shit and out there some one might like you combo plus pro and i mike like darkstar so why shouldnt we trade if that makes us happy.You a joke and wish to rip us all off.So again if i email you my combo plus pro back will you maill me 199 dollars us standard.Either that or i am gonna trade for a dev i want.I also dont like pulsar trying to sell me a new mixer wich shoul;d be free and besides the modular 2 offers all theese fools do you just have to make it your self and as soon as possible ill make devs and give them for free because we need more great free devs and john bowen is a theif .He bare ly offers stuff free if ever wavelength how ever rules and have a more eathy policy.I love him and we communicate some times he even put one of my songs on his page to demo stuff i got for free and i bought and hes no cry baby.Ill be makeing devs soon as to i just made a little money and am getting my package soon.So look soon for my devs theyll alll be free and hopefully you wont have to pay theese hight prices to people like johnbowen because mine will rock and be free.Ill even copy some devs that are too xpensive.Hell try to contact pulsar but they cant stop me because they ll try to set prices for me but they cant thats gouging and my devs will be free.It will take awhile because of learning curve but i allready am doing some vst instument s and it is teaching me.so look for my stuff soon.It will be called corruptdata devs.lata all
there are all of you devices even yours john all over the web for free allready.I wont tell you where but search its real easy to find,I dont post stuff on the web for free on warez sites wich pulsar is just gaing notice,They even have time craked pulsar devs demos and removed the 10 hour block.it works like a charm 2.I found this out not long agao.It started in england by a friend hacker who i challeged but not to get them for free myself but i told him of there time lock out and he laughed at it and then made a exe thats been posted to the world.Not my prob.I was merely tradeing this for tyhat.What must i pay you twice cause i think combo plus pro suks and i want to get rid of it.Will you please give me my money back.Please I want my money back.I think this synth lacks in all areas and im out my money .so either maill me 199.dollars or shut up.You cant say im stuk with shit and out there some one might like you combo plus pro and i mike like darkstar so why shouldnt we trade if that makes us happy.You a joke and wish to rip us all off.So again if i email you my combo plus pro back will you maill me 199 dollars us standard.Either that or i am gonna trade for a dev i want.I also dont like pulsar trying to sell me a new mixer wich shoul;d be free and besides the modular 2 offers all theese fools do you just have to make it your self and as soon as possible ill make devs and give them for free because we need more great free devs and john bowen is a theif .He bare ly offers stuff free if ever wavelength how ever rules and have a more eathy policy.I love him and we communicate some times he even put one of my songs on his page to demo stuff i got for free and i bought and hes no cry baby.Ill be makeing devs soon as to i just made a little money and am getting my package soon.So look soon for my devs theyll alll be free and hopefully you wont have to pay theese hight prices to people like johnbowen because mine will rock and be free.Ill even copy some devs that are too xpensive.Hell try to contact pulsar but they cant stop me because they ll try to set prices for me but they cant thats gouging and my devs will be free.It will take awhile because of learning curve but i allready am doing some vst instument s and it is teaching me.so look for my stuff soon.It will be called corruptdata devs.lata all
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Subject: by the way i did buy the wavelength bundle and the zarg bunb
i bought both there bundles for a total of 400 dollars and they still cry.They have my mone y allready.I forgot to mention this the only synth i didnt buy was ambient cause it wasnt out yet.Now it is and im broke or id buy it.hes crying over his own customer and yes i dont like combo pluss pro and want a dev that ill use .so any one up for a trade combo for anything.hell bitch and moan but i think are happieness is more important than his checking account.
i bought both there bundles for a total of 400 dollars and they still cry.They have my mone y allready.I forgot to mention this the only synth i didnt buy was ambient cause it wasnt out yet.Now it is and im broke or id buy it.hes crying over his own customer and yes i dont like combo pluss pro and want a dev that ill use .so any one up for a trade combo for anything.hell bitch and moan but i think are happieness is more important than his checking account.
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Subject: read
I also have like 5 devs developers gave me and i wont trade theese like paul tanti devs because hes cool and we had an agreement.hes such a bro too.and others too,but i still have the rught to trade any dev i want.i can also swap music cds,cars,food,clothes,movies,and so on and so on and they are just mad because tradeing 1 item for another is not illegal especialy because i dont sell them.I wouldnt .
so wah wah wah wah wah,youll nevcer stop the humman spirt johny boy and youll never stop freedom.I never said hey all lets steal i said lets trade.your so helpless you cry but trade is cool and if not program your devs better so they cant be shared .I dint rip you off but you have been by others.So everyone here remember i didnt post devices on the web read the name there reged to its not me but there there so if you want any free devs search the warez site .syncrome zorba ambient and darkstar and a few others are avail able right along side all other programs like cubase and acid ad so on.maybe hell cry about that wich he should because hes been robed this is trade.so f u john.and now that you spoke up iM just a little happy your devs are out there.you reap what you sew and in the end your tried to rob people for high miney and just like soundforge you got cracked baby.if you asked for less that wouldnt have happend.Like all other costly programs someone out there gets pissed and cracked it,but in contrast the nice priced wavelength stuff hasnt been craked yet.ive never seen it.And it might not be because wavelength rules.Lata
have a good show in canada bro,john cant play shows hes too much a dick and probably cant even write music(haahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha)lameo lame o lame o
hes so lame.ahahahahhaa
wavelength is a creator zarg is a money machine just cause they work together dont mean ther the same.i love wave length remember that
I also have like 5 devs developers gave me and i wont trade theese like paul tanti devs because hes cool and we had an agreement.hes such a bro too.and others too,but i still have the rught to trade any dev i want.i can also swap music cds,cars,food,clothes,movies,and so on and so on and they are just mad because tradeing 1 item for another is not illegal especialy because i dont sell them.I wouldnt .
so wah wah wah wah wah,youll nevcer stop the humman spirt johny boy and youll never stop freedom.I never said hey all lets steal i said lets trade.your so helpless you cry but trade is cool and if not program your devs better so they cant be shared .I dint rip you off but you have been by others.So everyone here remember i didnt post devices on the web read the name there reged to its not me but there there so if you want any free devs search the warez site .syncrome zorba ambient and darkstar and a few others are avail able right along side all other programs like cubase and acid ad so on.maybe hell cry about that wich he should because hes been robed this is trade.so f u john.and now that you spoke up iM just a little happy your devs are out there.you reap what you sew and in the end your tried to rob people for high miney and just like soundforge you got cracked baby.if you asked for less that wouldnt have happend.Like all other costly programs someone out there gets pissed and cracked it,but in contrast the nice priced wavelength stuff hasnt been craked yet.ive never seen it.And it might not be because wavelength rules.Lata
have a good show in canada bro,john cant play shows hes too much a dick and probably cant even write music(haahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha)lameo lame o lame o
hes so lame.ahahahahhaa
wavelength is a creator zarg is a money machine just cause they work together dont mean ther the same.i love wave length remember that
Subject: shameless, useless
you should be ashamed of yourself!
you really think you can help other people and developers by sharing stuff you bought ???
you should read the license agreements very closely and you will see that what you are doing is illegal indeed.
i won't be suprised that you haven't bought any of the stuff you say you have.
if you really think you are not acting illegal then post me your realname/address to and we'll see if you are illegal not!!
get a live!
it's because of YOU we raise prices!
it's because of YOU we won't develop as much as we want to!
it's because of YOU we loose interest in the pulsar platform!
no regards.
sander baan
orbitone
and use your real name, chicken!
you should be ashamed of yourself!
you really think you can help other people and developers by sharing stuff you bought ???
you should read the license agreements very closely and you will see that what you are doing is illegal indeed.
i won't be suprised that you haven't bought any of the stuff you say you have.
if you really think you are not acting illegal then post me your realname/address to and we'll see if you are illegal not!!
get a live!
it's because of YOU we raise prices!
it's because of YOU we won't develop as much as we want to!
it's because of YOU we loose interest in the pulsar platform!
no regards.
sander baan
orbitone
and use your real name, chicken!
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Subject: disappointing
hey JR,
i understand your point of view that if you bought something, you should be able to sell or trade it. however, software doesn't necessarily work this way. this ideal of free trade is clouded in the software world, as i seriously doubt that you delete the traded software from your hard disk after trading it with another user.
in addition, our records do not indicate that you have purchased any orbitone or planet z devices. and, if you HAD purchased them, you would see that the license agreement (which you agreed to, by using the software) expressly prohibits transfer of the software to another party.
so, this, in combination with all your other grandstanding remarks about cracking software, indicate to me that you are, in fact, a software thief. and proud of it.
i can't stop you, i can't ban you from the forums, i can't sue you for losses, and so i just accept that people like you exist to ruin the party for all the honest folks.
disappointing.
-john
hey JR,
i understand your point of view that if you bought something, you should be able to sell or trade it. however, software doesn't necessarily work this way. this ideal of free trade is clouded in the software world, as i seriously doubt that you delete the traded software from your hard disk after trading it with another user.
in addition, our records do not indicate that you have purchased any orbitone or planet z devices. and, if you HAD purchased them, you would see that the license agreement (which you agreed to, by using the software) expressly prohibits transfer of the software to another party.
so, this, in combination with all your other grandstanding remarks about cracking software, indicate to me that you are, in fact, a software thief. and proud of it.
i can't stop you, i can't ban you from the forums, i can't sue you for losses, and so i just accept that people like you exist to ruin the party for all the honest folks.
disappointing.
-john
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Subject: price politics
Hi, just some quick words... I really understand your mood about hearing stuff like that, but really prices politics at creamware are not really "user friendly".. I mean, take the spl transient designer, no difference in price with the real hardware one.... even soft synth are quite well overpriced, said that i condman as well piracy, and understand all the effort and development that are behind each of your products. you must anyway know that the lower is the price the more you sell and less piracy is around...
so don't just give away for free but keep price competitive and compare not with real hardware market but with softsynth and vsti: the mtron for instance sells at $50...
in the past there were big cracking groups that won't work on any apps that costed under $100 ....regards and good luck for your company and i look forward to a polite and sincere reply as well as some new cool device from your company....
yours... let's say "a friend" ?
Hi, just some quick words... I really understand your mood about hearing stuff like that, but really prices politics at creamware are not really "user friendly".. I mean, take the spl transient designer, no difference in price with the real hardware one.... even soft synth are quite well overpriced, said that i condman as well piracy, and understand all the effort and development that are behind each of your products. you must anyway know that the lower is the price the more you sell and less piracy is around...
so don't just give away for free but keep price competitive and compare not with real hardware market but with softsynth and vsti: the mtron for instance sells at $50...
in the past there were big cracking groups that won't work on any apps that costed under $100 ....regards and good luck for your company and i look forward to a polite and sincere reply as well as some new cool device from your company....
yours... let's say "a friend" ?