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right i have a new nightmare, i go to glastonbury for a week...
then come back boot my pc up, load up my track i was previously working on and its all to f**k.
basically when it gets to the part where theres alot going on, i get glitches especially when i move the scroll bars, and sometimes even if just playing the track, well it was fine b4 and was coping no probs
why why why????
i aint changed it at all, so something decided it wants to do my head in, and has succeded.
right so ive tested diff tracks and they all do it, so its nothing to do with my track, ive toyed with the graphics card settings which Is wat i was expecting was the problem, but i cant find nuthing wrong with that.
it seems to only be in cubase that im getting a pc overload, coz other programs seem to cope well.
what have i done to make it go like this???? any tips i could try???
im playing a festival in 2 weeks and want to get a dubplate done, and im fuming coz my pc has decided to have its period
any help much appreciated, im sure its asio related with buffers or something, but the strange thing is, i havent altered anything
p.s. thought you might like to know i have had an on going prob with windows wave drivers that makes my pc reboot when opening windows media player, but ive managed to get by, by not using it, and had no probs till now
and micro mixer occasionally pops up saying you havent registered your mixer, ive emailed creamware hq over 5 times and had diddly squat back from them, (pr**cks they took my 900 quid easy first of all)
p3 3ghz
pulsar 1 board 3.1 software
windows xp
cubase sx
yamaha 01v
then come back boot my pc up, load up my track i was previously working on and its all to f**k.
basically when it gets to the part where theres alot going on, i get glitches especially when i move the scroll bars, and sometimes even if just playing the track, well it was fine b4 and was coping no probs
why why why????
i aint changed it at all, so something decided it wants to do my head in, and has succeded.
right so ive tested diff tracks and they all do it, so its nothing to do with my track, ive toyed with the graphics card settings which Is wat i was expecting was the problem, but i cant find nuthing wrong with that.
it seems to only be in cubase that im getting a pc overload, coz other programs seem to cope well.
what have i done to make it go like this???? any tips i could try???
im playing a festival in 2 weeks and want to get a dubplate done, and im fuming coz my pc has decided to have its period
any help much appreciated, im sure its asio related with buffers or something, but the strange thing is, i havent altered anything
p.s. thought you might like to know i have had an on going prob with windows wave drivers that makes my pc reboot when opening windows media player, but ive managed to get by, by not using it, and had no probs till now
and micro mixer occasionally pops up saying you havent registered your mixer, ive emailed creamware hq over 5 times and had diddly squat back from them, (pr**cks they took my 900 quid easy first of all)
p3 3ghz
pulsar 1 board 3.1 software
windows xp
cubase sx
yamaha 01v
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Bump up your latency. If you're running ACPI you might have some issues. Have you disabled USB? Check your card and see if it's interrupt is shared with another HW device.
If none of the above, a clean install of OS & all apps might do the trick, but I doubt you've got time to do that prior to the festival. What's your DSP load @?
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If none of the above, a clean install of OS & all apps might do the trick, but I doubt you've got time to do that prior to the festival. What's your DSP load @?
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thanks mate, excuse me for being a divvy, but whats the best way to check to see if my interrupt is shared with another HW device?
haven't touched my usb or anything, its just gone pear shaped on its own accord i think, only thing different ive done lately is introduced a phatboy midi controller into my set up, shouldnt cause any probs thou as its only in the midi chain.
dsp load is using 2 out of my 4 chips, im only using micro mixer with all the asio drivers and analogue out
i'm getting ready to re-install the pulsar software though, looks like i'm gonna have to try that.
p.s. my p3 3ghz is a hyperthread multiprocessor so in device manager it says acpi multiprocessor, so im not sure if i can select normal mode????
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haven't touched my usb or anything, its just gone pear shaped on its own accord i think, only thing different ive done lately is introduced a phatboy midi controller into my set up, shouldnt cause any probs thou as its only in the midi chain.
dsp load is using 2 out of my 4 chips, im only using micro mixer with all the asio drivers and analogue out
i'm getting ready to re-install the pulsar software though, looks like i'm gonna have to try that.
p.s. my p3 3ghz is a hyperthread multiprocessor so in device manager it says acpi multiprocessor, so im not sure if i can select normal mode????
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I can't recall whether Hyperthreading is a problem, but for interrupts:
programs > accessories > system tools > system information > hw resources > conflicts/sharing
If your card shares and interrupt with a hw device, move it to another slot.
However, maybe you can start with uninstalling/reinstalling Cubase SX, if the above doesn't help. I've had SX go semi-corrupt on me several times, and a reinstall helped.
Not sure if reinstalling SFP will buy you anything. My SFP either works or doesn't, but the sequencer is the first to go.
It's also worth mentioning, kind of echoing what Alfonso said, that you might have a video related problem. If your video card is slow, during busy parts the system might slip, as it will tax the processor for assistance, mucking up your audio. I had that problem on an old PII 450 when I got my first Pulsar II years ago.
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programs > accessories > system tools > system information > hw resources > conflicts/sharing
If your card shares and interrupt with a hw device, move it to another slot.
However, maybe you can start with uninstalling/reinstalling Cubase SX, if the above doesn't help. I've had SX go semi-corrupt on me several times, and a reinstall helped.
Not sure if reinstalling SFP will buy you anything. My SFP either works or doesn't, but the sequencer is the first to go.
It's also worth mentioning, kind of echoing what Alfonso said, that you might have a video related problem. If your video card is slow, during busy parts the system might slip, as it will tax the processor for assistance, mucking up your audio. I had that problem on an old PII 450 when I got my first Pulsar II years ago.
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right, firstly thanks for your response, it really does help
secondly my nightmare is getting worse not better
ive checked my interupts and looks like my pulsar card is sharing irq 22 with 3com gigabyte LOM (3c940) (whatever that is???)
and my radeon 7000 graphics card is sharing irq 16 with 2 usb controllers
i cant move my graphics card to another slot coz its one of those new ddr new type agp slots
shall i move my pulsar card to another slot?
and my new nightmare is that i downloaded sfp 3.1 tried installing and now its asking for me to point to the allkeys file, which i cant download from creamware hq coz its all in german, and they dont seem to do it by just entering serial numbers like i previously had. so now my pulsar wont even start up when i boot the pc, i have to manually load pulsar everytime when i start the pc. doh!!
ive emailed creamware again, and my email seems to have dissapeared down the usual black hole, maybe they wont reply to me coz i own a ancient pulsar 1 card???? god knows
i think the tip from interloper about re-installing sx might help, but now i need to get pulsar working back to normal to try that
do you know how else i could download the allkeys file?
i only own pulsar 1 soundboard and havent got any other luna, powerpacks etc
i appreciate all the help
secondly my nightmare is getting worse not better
ive checked my interupts and looks like my pulsar card is sharing irq 22 with 3com gigabyte LOM (3c940) (whatever that is???)
and my radeon 7000 graphics card is sharing irq 16 with 2 usb controllers
i cant move my graphics card to another slot coz its one of those new ddr new type agp slots
shall i move my pulsar card to another slot?
and my new nightmare is that i downloaded sfp 3.1 tried installing and now its asking for me to point to the allkeys file, which i cant download from creamware hq coz its all in german, and they dont seem to do it by just entering serial numbers like i previously had. so now my pulsar wont even start up when i boot the pc, i have to manually load pulsar everytime when i start the pc. doh!!
ive emailed creamware again, and my email seems to have dissapeared down the usual black hole, maybe they wont reply to me coz i own a ancient pulsar 1 card???? god knows
i think the tip from interloper about re-installing sx might help, but now i need to get pulsar working back to normal to try that
do you know how else i could download the allkeys file?
i only own pulsar 1 soundboard and havent got any other luna, powerpacks etc
i appreciate all the help
thanks but when the install page comes up, it asks you to tap key in or import from file, so I tried tapping key in, and that didnt work, then i tried importing the scope.rgy file like you said and that imports, but the next button doesnt highlight so i can carry on and install.
and the read me says goto creamware www and click on your personal page and download the key you require, pah wat a load of toss, its all in german and don't work proper anyway, they aint replied to me yet, so basically it looks like im knackered, or maybe i'll have to go back and reinstall v2.0 or 3.0 of the software.
this is doing my nut in, but i will not be beaten
and the read me says goto creamware www and click on your personal page and download the key you require, pah wat a load of toss, its all in german and don't work proper anyway, they aint replied to me yet, so basically it looks like im knackered, or maybe i'll have to go back and reinstall v2.0 or 3.0 of the software.
this is doing my nut in, but i will not be beaten
Greetings
To me It seems your Pulsar is shared with 3com network adapter/LAN. That is generally a bad idea. If you are not using any network, you could disable it in bios. If you are using it at times, you could try and disable it in windows device manager, or try to find a pci slot that is not shared.
Good luck!
To me It seems your Pulsar is shared with 3com network adapter/LAN. That is generally a bad idea. If you are not using any network, you could disable it in bios. If you are using it at times, you could try and disable it in windows device manager, or try to find a pci slot that is not shared.
Good luck!
yeah, it's probably an installation/irq/messed up thing and the 'registration' is just a fake symptom.
It has been mentioned several times that requesting boxes magically disappeared once the system was installed 'properly'.
Unfortunately I also remember having read recently that XP is rather unlikely to get it's stuff back together again once it's messed up.
And you've already noticed that you had a continuing problem with some drivers.
A system like XP is so complex that you just can't be shure what to expect - I spare the comment about quality in general and M$ in particular blah...
Since the gig seems crucial for you, it's probaly the fastest to install from scratch on a new HD (a formatted old one) and then copy the stuff from the current (messed)drive.
good luck - and keep your patience - if you get nervous the system will sense it and continue to fool you, seriously...
cheers, Tom
It has been mentioned several times that requesting boxes magically disappeared once the system was installed 'properly'.
Unfortunately I also remember having read recently that XP is rather unlikely to get it's stuff back together again once it's messed up.
And you've already noticed that you had a continuing problem with some drivers.
A system like XP is so complex that you just can't be shure what to expect - I spare the comment about quality in general and M$ in particular blah...
Since the gig seems crucial for you, it's probaly the fastest to install from scratch on a new HD (a formatted old one) and then copy the stuff from the current (messed)drive.
good luck - and keep your patience - if you get nervous the system will sense it and continue to fool you, seriously...

cheers, Tom
Disable anything you're not using in BIOS...serial/com ports; usb ports [make sure usb 2 isn't enabled even if you use usb]
Don't assume that it's nothing to do with midi either....midi faults can bring the whole system to its knees so try running without the Phatboy to see what happens.
The Creamware site isn't all in German....you just have to press 'English Version' on the left
Don't assume that it's nothing to do with midi either....midi faults can bring the whole system to its knees so try running without the Phatboy to see what happens.
The Creamware site isn't all in German....you just have to press 'English Version' on the left
So have you wasted enough of your valuable time to have arrived at a solution?
Or are you still in computer Hell?
Have you already thrown your computer out the window, and then driven over it repeatedly with your car, and then doused it in gasoline and set it on fire?
I had a situation like this once. I had all my old bandmates showing up for a weekend of beer and nostalgia and music. One guy flying in and two of them had to take ferries to get here (not to mention getting approval from three spouses to escape for the weekend). Of course, as usual, I was expected to record all this drunken weekend brilliance.
What happens two days before they all get here? Suddenly my Sonar/Pulsar system won't stay in record. It's dropping out, it's recording all kinds of ticks and pops when it does work.
I talk to creamware on the phone, I go out to their North Ameircan headquarters, which just happen to be about a 45 minute drive away, they spend two hours dicking with it and conclude that my power supply, and possibly my hard drive, and maybe even my CPU being to slow, are possilby causing the problem. So I go out and spend hundreds of dollars on my computer to get a really good power supply and a new hard drive and a faster CPU. I re-install everything fresh, right from Windows on up, new drivers, new install of Pulsar and Sonar. I think it goes without saying... the problem still exists.
By now I am out of time(and it is Friday night, so no more calls to Creamware,)so I have to go out and rent an all in one Roland unit to record the band for the weekend.
When I fanally have time to drive back out to Burnaby the next week, the team there is mystified at my problem. It takes another trwo hours of mucking about before someone asks whether or not we have tried swapping the Pulsar card out yet. Well, no, no one had thougt of checking the Pulsar card itself. We swap it out and guess what? No more problem.
Turned out in the end that the Pulsar card had suffered some sort of non-catastrophic failure. It was functioning, but not well.
However, I found Creamware's staff to be extremely helpful, if perhaps not as thorough the first time as I would have liked...I could have spent that money on plug-ins and synths!
Or are you still in computer Hell?
Have you already thrown your computer out the window, and then driven over it repeatedly with your car, and then doused it in gasoline and set it on fire?
I had a situation like this once. I had all my old bandmates showing up for a weekend of beer and nostalgia and music. One guy flying in and two of them had to take ferries to get here (not to mention getting approval from three spouses to escape for the weekend). Of course, as usual, I was expected to record all this drunken weekend brilliance.
What happens two days before they all get here? Suddenly my Sonar/Pulsar system won't stay in record. It's dropping out, it's recording all kinds of ticks and pops when it does work.
I talk to creamware on the phone, I go out to their North Ameircan headquarters, which just happen to be about a 45 minute drive away, they spend two hours dicking with it and conclude that my power supply, and possibly my hard drive, and maybe even my CPU being to slow, are possilby causing the problem. So I go out and spend hundreds of dollars on my computer to get a really good power supply and a new hard drive and a faster CPU. I re-install everything fresh, right from Windows on up, new drivers, new install of Pulsar and Sonar. I think it goes without saying... the problem still exists.
By now I am out of time(and it is Friday night, so no more calls to Creamware,)so I have to go out and rent an all in one Roland unit to record the band for the weekend.
When I fanally have time to drive back out to Burnaby the next week, the team there is mystified at my problem. It takes another trwo hours of mucking about before someone asks whether or not we have tried swapping the Pulsar card out yet. Well, no, no one had thougt of checking the Pulsar card itself. We swap it out and guess what? No more problem.
Turned out in the end that the Pulsar card had suffered some sort of non-catastrophic failure. It was functioning, but not well.
However, I found Creamware's staff to be extremely helpful, if perhaps not as thorough the first time as I would have liked...I could have spent that money on plug-ins and synths!
aahhh - that reads like another mystical appearance of the 'couldn't reset due to still (rests of) power in the device'.
It's my standard procedure in all 'very' strange cases to completely disconnect the computers power from the wall outlet, switch it on disconnected to unload the PSU, wait some minutes and then power on again.
Nprimes's method is the more demanding version of this total reset, but with the advantage of catching possible dislocation problems, too.
A variation is to reboot without the card, to make the OS aware of hardware changes, power down and reinstall the card.
I'm not shure how XP deals with this situation, because I don't run it...
cheers, Tom
It's my standard procedure in all 'very' strange cases to completely disconnect the computers power from the wall outlet, switch it on disconnected to unload the PSU, wait some minutes and then power on again.
Nprimes's method is the more demanding version of this total reset, but with the advantage of catching possible dislocation problems, too.
A variation is to reboot without the card, to make the OS aware of hardware changes, power down and reinstall the card.
I'm not shure how XP deals with this situation, because I don't run it...
cheers, Tom
Hi Guys,
well I am getting somewhere! I have now been able to access creamware HQ website to download the allkeys file (something aint right with that site thou, i was using opera browser and it wasnt having it at all, but using IE i managed to get there)
anyway, installed sfp 3.1 and its all working! for some reason, the little pulsar icon aint in the task bar anymore, and i have to open pulsar and then run cubase and my other audio apps, oh well its working thats the main thing, I expect theres a button somewhere which i havent noticed yet, that allows pulsar to run in the background, and start with windows. (i thought it installed pulsar to run with windows as default?) oh well thats the least of my probs anyway ive got it working.
so now ive booted up my sequencer, reason rewired and now my track works and the performance is better (but not as good as b4 i went glastonbury), it aint overloading thou and the whole track plays out!
something is glitchy with my graphics card still though (even after installing new ati drivers) and tweaking everything that could be tweaked to prioritise performance over looks
basically its the old favourite, move the scroll bars while the songs full on playing and you get glitches pah!!
last time i had this problem, i sorted it by buying am 8 meg graphics card rather than running my dual monitor radeon card 32meg.
work that out? buy a shitter graphics card and its better. uh???
well im working round this prob gradually, and once ive got my dubplate and the festival out the way, a reformat could be on the cards me thinks!!!
but the mystery is, that my pc worked fine b4 i went to glastonbury, and i come back and somehow the pc has been indulging in magic mushrooms, strange but true!!!
thanks for all the tips and advice
well I am getting somewhere! I have now been able to access creamware HQ website to download the allkeys file (something aint right with that site thou, i was using opera browser and it wasnt having it at all, but using IE i managed to get there)
anyway, installed sfp 3.1 and its all working! for some reason, the little pulsar icon aint in the task bar anymore, and i have to open pulsar and then run cubase and my other audio apps, oh well its working thats the main thing, I expect theres a button somewhere which i havent noticed yet, that allows pulsar to run in the background, and start with windows. (i thought it installed pulsar to run with windows as default?) oh well thats the least of my probs anyway ive got it working.
so now ive booted up my sequencer, reason rewired and now my track works and the performance is better (but not as good as b4 i went glastonbury), it aint overloading thou and the whole track plays out!
something is glitchy with my graphics card still though (even after installing new ati drivers) and tweaking everything that could be tweaked to prioritise performance over looks
basically its the old favourite, move the scroll bars while the songs full on playing and you get glitches pah!!
last time i had this problem, i sorted it by buying am 8 meg graphics card rather than running my dual monitor radeon card 32meg.
work that out? buy a shitter graphics card and its better. uh???
well im working round this prob gradually, and once ive got my dubplate and the festival out the way, a reformat could be on the cards me thinks!!!
but the mystery is, that my pc worked fine b4 i went to glastonbury, and i come back and somehow the pc has been indulging in magic mushrooms, strange but true!!!
thanks for all the tips and advice
Simple rule:
"The more important it is for your system to be working; the more likely it is to fail"
PC's are psychic. It's true!
They seem to know when you really really need to get something done, and they always seem to cease cooperating at exactly that moment
Never, ever approach a Computer with the thought "I will just do this quickly...".
You must clear your mind and approach with Zen like clarity and calm.
This I have learned.
Rod
"The more important it is for your system to be working; the more likely it is to fail"
PC's are psychic. It's true!
They seem to know when you really really need to get something done, and they always seem to cease cooperating at exactly that moment
Never, ever approach a Computer with the thought "I will just do this quickly...".
You must clear your mind and approach with Zen like clarity and calm.
This I have learned.
Rod
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The skips while moving the scroll bars seems more and more graphics related, as the CPU seems to be taxed for video during playback. Come to think of it, I had the same video card as you, and it gave me a lot of problems.On 2004-07-05 10:41, mrvinyl wrote:
basically its the old favourite, move the scroll bars while the songs full on playing and you get glitches pah!!
well im working round this prob gradually, and once ive got my dubplate and the festival out the way, a reformat could be on the cards me thinks!!!
You generally need more video ram for the heavy SFP bitmaps. I would put my money on getting a better video card with more VRAM, at least 64 or 128 MB. I now have a GeForce FX5200 with 128 MB. You can pick one up cheap from eBay. Watch the fan though, it will usually crap out eventually.
And reformatting won't hurt, but if the card is your problem, the anomaly will persist.