Scope 4 problem

jules · Post by **jules** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 4:41 am

Hi, need a little help. Setup: Mac + pulsar1
This setup was working just fine, and on a dark cold afternoon...
First, when the starup project is loaded, in the routing window, the only options I've got are Hardware IO and SoftIO, and 2 empty squares giving me a menu with the files present in the scope App/bin folder. At the same point if I open the file browser it gives me D:/xSource/ , which doesn't exist on my hard drive.
On the other hand I'm suffering several graphical problems: I'm stuck in classic mode (got the confirmation windows, but it doesn't change), the screenset feature doesn't work at all, and finally in the setting it never remembers the directories I give him (even if I try to save them as startup/default...)

I tried deleting all the .ini, my preferences, installing/deinstalling Scope, starting from a new archive of the software, installing a all new system folder...

My musical life is flushing down the toilets.
HELP, please

Post by **hubird** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 7:49 am

did you install the Scope folder 'on top' of your harddisk?
Did you change the main folder name by adding empty spaces in it?
just guessing...

jules · Post by **jules** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 7:56 am

I didn't try to install it on top of my HD.
But I remember trying to put my scope folder there, and nothing changed...
I didn't changed names either.
I do agree, with you, I looks like a little path problem, but in which file???

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:14 am

The only file that I know of that contains paths, is cset.ini. (pc also has scopevst.cfg for xtc)
For Mac, I heared something about changing the extension of cset.ini file to .txt before editing, and renaming it back after saving. Don't know if you are fimiliar with that. Then check if all your paths under at least [staticpath] are correct. That's all that I know of that matters for your problem...

Good luck!

samplaire · Post by **samplaire** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:32 am

Just to make sure, move your SP4 folder in the main root of MacHD as Hubird suggested. The second thing to remember is not to have spaces in the path name - neither the disk name nor the folder name can't contain blanks.

I don't remember which mode is which (classic/standard - too similar names to remember their differences) but one mode is so bugful I tried it once

As for remembering the projects/presets etc paths - AFAIK the software never remembered it. So each time I want to open/save a project (and a while earlier I opened a preset) I have to switch to the proper folder and vice versa.

Post by **hubird** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:33 am

On 2004-07-26 08:56, jules wrote:
I didn't try to install it on top of my HD.

you should!

Atomic has right, you can text-edit the ini file by making it .txt.
I never needed to do this tho.

BTW. the name of your HD(partition) should also have no spatials in it or in front of it...
hope you find a solution...

samplaire · Post by **samplaire** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:36 am

hehe I was first

jules · Post by **jules** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:43 am

Thanks for your answers.
I'll try to have a look at the csnet.ini manually. I tried to trash it, and it was regenerated automatically, with the same problem. So there must be something dictating the paths somewhere else.
However I'm sure to never have put any spaces or signs in the folder names.
Does somebody knows if Scope is sensible to partition settings? (I've 3 on the disc I'm working with)
Concerning the mode Classic / Standard: my problem is that unfortunately, I can't change them. If I specify to go to standard, it will give me a warning window (changes will take place once restarted...) but it still is the same...
Does somebody have an idea about "screenshots"? In my case, this function is just great for crashing the application..

samplaire · Post by **samplaire** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:49 am

About partitioning - it's ok, I have 4 partitions and it was never problematic. Do you have a Pulsar3 sotware installed? If so and you don't use it anymore (or if you haven't one but had a while ago) look in your system folder/preferences and locate the 'creamware' folder - trash it, perhaps something in there spoils your efforts to work properly

[edit]

But you said you installed a new system folder...

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[ This Message was edited by: samplaire on 2004-07-26 09:53 ]

samplaire · Post by **samplaire** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:54 am

Hve you installed a control panel/extension "default folder" it caused weird problems when I had it.

samplaire · Post by **samplaire** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:00 am

I even don't have dots in the folder name so my scope folder root is: MacHD/SP40

jules · Post by **jules** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:01 am

No I'm on Scope 4.0 now. So I was expecting my pulsar carpet to fly me over a not stop flow of music pleasure

And yes I've trashed all my preferences several times (and then the final solution of the new system).

I'm not familliar with the notion of a "default folder" in my control panel/extension. What do you mean? Is it an extension, an hidden option?

samplaire · Post by **samplaire** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:15 am

I meant if you have both Pulsar3 and SP4 (I do have Pulsar3, SFP3.1c and SP4

) because I still use my old sessions and the Scope software isn't down compatible 100%.
But returning to the topic... Default Folder is a 3rd party stuff ao if you didn't install it you are 100% sure you don't have it. It's good and bad - good because it causes problems - bad - because this is not the cause of your present problem.

Could you specify the full pathname containing the diskname of your SP software?

Did you install the software in the partition you work or from another partition? It should be installed from the partition you work in!

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[ This Message was edited by: samplaire on 2004-07-26 10:16 ]

jules · Post by **jules** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:34 am

Well I suspected the installation from another partition would be the first source of problem. So, it was the first thing I tried: everything from the beginning on the destination partition (unpacking the archive and installing SCOPE)
And I don't think there's anything fancy in my path, it's kind of mac/jules/Scope/App/...

But, afterall, it doesn't make sense to me because it happened suddenly, from day one to day two, without me modifying anything. Appart from plugging and unplugging a firewire disk to transfer some files (not related to Scope). I can't see anything else.

samplaire · Post by **samplaire** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:40 am

Huh! Is "Mac/jules" your disk (partition) name"? If so then you have to change the "/" to "_" (underline) or delete it. Your Scope software understands the sign "/" in the name as if it was a disk and a folder.

If it's called "Mac" and the folder is called "jules" and the next folder is called "Scope" then you don't have your SP4 install in the root folder, then it should be (in this case) Mac/Scope/

After the changes you should install the Scope software once again to ensure everything works smoothly

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[ This Message was edited by: samplaire on 2004-07-26 10:44 ]

jules · Post by **jules** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 11:03 am

I'm writing mac/jules/scope, as in a terminal path.
It is on a disk called mac, in a folder called jules, and in a folder called scope. There's no complicated folder or hard drive name.

Edit: didn't get your message the first time.
But yes I've tried to move my "scope folder" under the root (Mac). No differences. Perhaps your right, should reinstall there. A lot of pleasure in perspective.

[ This Message was edited by: jules on 2004-07-26 12:05 ]

Post by **hubird** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 4:40 pm

Don't know if this is relevant, but there's a controll panel 'Memory'.
Here 'Virtual memory' should be turned off.
You're sure you deleted the old Alloc and CrossDev.dll files from the extensions folder, as well as the Creamware Audio Driver?
You said so, but sometimes, while re-installing and trying unusual things you can mess things easily

jules · Post by **jules** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:16 am

right, back to square one...
I deleted the old software (including extensions, ASIO drivers, and preferences), and reinstalled in a fresh scope directory just under the root /mac folder.
Guess what?? It doesn't work...
Then I had a look at csnet.ini ; install.ini and all the files that sounded interesting, but all parameters looked ok. They were not mentioning a single time a D:/xSource or whatever.

I'm going to eat my mouse. That's probably the solution

Post by **garyb** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:34 am

maybe reseat the card? whip connected?
for you to consistantly get the same problem even when using a fresh install from the original cd on a system that used to work, i start to wonder if it isn't a hardware problem masquerading as a software problem...i can't imagine the os going belly up(then again)...

may the solution soon become obvious and simple..

samplaire · Post by **samplaire** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:44 am

Yes, reseat the card.