first song post

Babble · Post by **Babble** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:32 pm

This file has expired and is no longer available here. The owner of the topic can re-upload the file, or post a link to an off-site file. <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Genre: Ambient <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Uses: Pulsar Synths copyright © 2004 babble _____________________________________ hello all. this is my first song post... i apreciate any critisism and advice you may offer.

Babble · Post by **Babble** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 11:02 pm

I apologize, and before you download, the quality has been heavily taken away from this song as well as several layers added to this song through the upload... please ignore this post and i will try and get something better up soon!

nprime · Post by **nprime** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 11:21 pm

You should private message John Cooper and have him remove it.

Welcome to PlanetZ!

R

Post by **hubird** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:18 am

nice effect, sounds like soundchecking in a huge empty hall

Babble · Post by **Babble** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:18 pm

thank you hubird. it is very echoey, but i like the effect myself. I tried cutting down on it, but I felt it just doesn't give the same feeling. maybe i'll just keep this one up and see what others think. thanks for the review!

Post by **hubird** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:48 pm

Post by **hubird** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:48 pm

dp

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nprime · Post by **nprime** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:38 pm

My apologies, I didn't even listen tothe song, I was just giving you advice on what to dao get a file removed if you posted it in error.

Now that I have listened to it I don't know what you are worried about.

But, to be critical, and that is our purpose here( but it's all for the greater good). I find that the whole recording is a bit "veiled", by which i mean the the top end is not very crisp, somewhat muted. How and with what did you record this?

It's maybe a bit repetitive (vocal), but I think the musical ideas are kinda neat.

Definitely in need of polish but very much worth the effort.

Maybe try varying the vocal effect...

R

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:15 am

is it just me, the main piano-ish phrase sounds like it's being played an octave too low? Rest of the soud is pretty nice. Could use some more top end, but the wide string-style pads sure broaden the stereo field. So, great horizontal spread, but could use some more vertical width. Cool ambience tho. Musical content is nice too.

oh hey, where'd the bass go? Didn't think I heard anything playing a definitive bassline.

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Liquid EDGE · Post by **Liquid EDGE** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:23 pm

moby?

bit of a middy and muddy mix, the drums get drowned out a bit aswell. tis loud(good thing). too much rev...

nice though.

good musicianship.

Keep Rollin'

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AudioIrony · Post by **AudioIrony** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:36 pm

Can't get away from the comparison to Moby's "Play" - but I really liked the mix. Dark and woody and as Kens said the strings bring a nice bright wash to the whole thing.

I think I understand the effect you going for. If you want to see what effect a bit more high end (sizzle) will have on the mix - why not just play with the "damping" on the reverb or try adding a filter after the reverb.

Otherwise, leave it alone - it's effective as it is now.

Hope this is constructive
Cheers

Babble · Post by **Babble** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:00 pm

Thank you all for taking the time to download this and give your ideas on this! I used Cubase to mix all of this together, although i am very new with the program and still learning its ins and outs.

I am, as i'm sure you all have guessed by now, a fan of Moby's work and i think this song does sound a bit like his music. My original plan was not to imitate his work, rather create my own sound. I tried blending a hip-hop beat with ambience and the combination always pleases me. This did however end up sounding much like his work.

I would agree that this would need some "crisping" as well as more vertical range. The reverb is also a bit much and i think i may have gotten carried away with that. Hopefully i will get a bit better at mixing all of this together and improving the overall quality. Thank you again for all of your reviews on this as it seems most of you are very experienced!

Post by **garyb** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:15 pm

it all depends on the purpose of the music. good job and keep at it!

AudioIrony · Post by **AudioIrony** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:22 pm

I actually like the reverb effect - gives the mix a dark woody sound.

nprime · Post by **nprime** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 11:33 pm

...dark woody...

that's funny...

R

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:42 am

woody, now that's a good word.
Sounds much better than "tin".
(from mony python, for those who didn't get it)

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:03 pm

Too much like the stupid Moby song (God I hate him) and too much reverb.

eliam · Post by **eliam** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:43 pm

hehe, that's some stringent comment!

I did like that piece quite much, the string harmonies, although repetitive, are beautiful and pleasing to hear over and over. The intervals we hear ceate very rich colors (chords) and the melodic movements are simply well laid. Congratulations for this nice piece of work. Imo, the only thing missing is a first melody, which would sit on top of the tune and give the finishing ornaments, putting the repetitive background rightly in the background, at least when the soloist would perform. that way, the balance (foreground-background) would be created and the piece would shine and appear less repetitive.

As a flsutist, I'm hearing nice flute phrases for your tune... Could be a violin too.

Keep it up dude!

Etienne

nprime · Post by **nprime** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:51 pm

flsutist?

I'm just dying to have some Flsute on my next track.

I thought you people were called Flsautists?

R

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AudioIrony · Post by **AudioIrony** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:41 am

ermm

His music gave me a "woody" - nah

woody - as in timbre