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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:22 am
by Zer
well, I won`t excuse myself for that.

What time is the right time? In 100 years?

I like to provoke, that`s true. And I love black humor.

I just jhave to point out that religion has been invented by humans to control other humans. Nothing more nothing less. The positive side effects of religion will be always dominated by humans who think they represent god on earth and behave like this, no matter what religion they are on.

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:33 am
by Shroomz~>
I'm just saying maybe the time for satirical religeous cartoons of this nature was before dozens of people died in outraged riots ABOUT SATIRICAL FECKING RELIGIOUS CARTOONS.

Do what you want. Nobody is asking for an apology.

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:41 am
by Zer
So I`ll push this a bit more further

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3336 ... %202.0.jpg


What counts more? Freedom or religion?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:45 am
by Shroomz~>
that's a broken link & the answer is Freedom, but such blatant provocation leads to reaction & you know that fine while which puts you currently in deliberate trouble instigating mode ... where I normally am :grin:

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:54 am
by Zer
the link is not broken...you have to copy it manually in your browsers address field - oldschool eh?

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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 3:16 am
by Shroomz~>
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:45 am
by Spirit
On 2006-02-09 02:41, Zer wrote:
So I`ll push this a bit more further

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3336 ... %202.0.jpg


What counts more? Freedom or religion?

:lol: A pity none of the original Danish cartoons were that funny ! Laughing at frothing enraged fanaticism is a powerful counterforce.

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:37 am
by Spirit
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:31 am
by garyb
the cartoonist's wife(of the danish cartoon) is a bilderberger. one questions the intentions of the cartoon and remembers the british agents dressed up like arabs shooting iraqi police, starting a riot, arrested, and then saved with a british tank a couple of months ago.....

theater.

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:55 am
by Zer
http://www.drawmohammed.com/

But don`t get me wrong...christ fundamentals are a severe problem, too...and the rest I am not allowed mention as a german.

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:08 pm
by Spirit
On 2006-02-09 10:31, garyb wrote:
the cartoonist's wife(of the danish cartoon) is a bilderberger. one questions the intentions of the cartoon and remembers the british agents dressed up like arabs shooting iraqi police, starting a riot, arrested, and then saved with a british tank a couple of months ago.....

theater.
I remember that. The story was that the British were military intelligence agents gathering info about insurgents. They were discovered and had to fight their way out. They shot at police since many of the police are sympathetic to the insurgents....

I'm very interested to hear the alternate explanation.

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:47 am
by Zer

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:22 pm
by garyb
Spirit, the obvious alternative explanation is covered by ocam's razor. the simple explanation is that the "agents" were "destabilizing", just as documents like PNAC and Northwoods call for. it is not the first time "intelligence agents" have been caught carrying out such actions. short memories make the truth debateable....

YOU are a person of morals and trustworthiness. that doesn't make all the people on "your side" so. saying that they're a bunch of lying snakes who worship Lucifer in various "groves" doesn't make one less patriotic. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... %3AIT&rd=1
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the bohemian grove is not a theory.
:grin:

nice pron eyeball....w00t!~

ever noticed how violent crimes using deadly weapons increase the more gun control is in place? maybe it's because then only those who are willing to break the law are armed....

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:26 pm
by emzee
Mmmh... re: violent crimes and guns..... I don't think this is the case in Australia. My understanding is that most of the gun related violent crimes in Australia involved family/friends. Restricting access to guns has reduced the amount of gun related domestic violence.

People involved in the drug industry don't seem to care what they use to inflict damage, so I doubt if it's made much difference in this area.

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:26 pm
by garyb
so i said.
i'll bet domestic violence is more related to alchohol than guns, however....

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:41 am
by emzee
Oh, sorry. I didn't actually read the post, just added my opinion.

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 5:44 am
by Zer

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:24 pm
by emzee
Is that on off-topic, Zer? Got my attention strongly back on music. Hijacked me beautifully.

Re: Guns and domestic violence.... my understanding is that gun control greatly reduces the "reactive" violence. A very high percentage of gun use in domestic violence was spontaneous, not premeditated.

(Yeah, yanquis... while initially sceptical, I now support gun-control)

In the Australian constitution, the right to bear arms will refer to the right to keep our hands and fingers functional.

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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:43 pm
by emzee
Aaw shoot....

I didn't want to get into a debate on gun control anyway. Everyone can make up their own mind, depending on their neighbourhood and belief system.

Anybody seen that movie about the comedians' "in joke".... The Aristocrats... is it worth a look? Or is it one of those movies that SHOULD be downloaded for free off the internet. A guy I met can get practically any movie for free, supposedly. I'm wondering how long it will take the serous stakeholders like Sony to find a solution.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:56 am
by Zer
I didn`t need a gun and I don“t need it yet nor will I in the future. If people loose their ability for communication, they loose their lives.