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On the other hand there's a version like that which says: "If at first you don't suceed, try, try and try again. And then give up. No use being a damn fool about things."

That sounds a lot more sensible! And it talks about trying and experience, not deciding beforehand, for the sake of serenity. How much would change if we thought about peace of mind first of all?

John, I think you have to look at the words at little closer. The key for me is a change in attitude and priorities. This does not mean submission. It just means a change in prioritary decisions, knowing the difference between what's important and what's not so important...I'm not laying down and dying because of somebody else's business decisions, I adapt.(call me Borg )

I don't think being angry will do much good. It's not likely that Apple will change it's mind. I emailed a writer at a national newpaper about it but I don't think he will be writing about it. I think the hypocray of Apple doing this after ranting and raving about Microsoft being unfair is total hypocracy. Every time I see one of their new ads it's like a slap in the face.

"The key for me is a change in attitude and priorities. This does not mean submission. It just means a change in prioritary decisions, knowing the difference between what's important and what's not so important..."

Allright, that's cool. We're getting specific, and that's basically my issue with a lot of wise words and sayings. What makes them attractive to people is that they seemingly provide a general answer to all the specifics. I seldom find that to be true.

"I'm not laying down and dying because of somebody else's business decisions, I adapt.(call me Borg )

I hear you. And do bring Seven along to the next planet z gathering..

This Borg lives in Unamatrix Zero. I'll bring Anika

But don't buy an Apple because like Bush Said:

"This is Justice not Revenge".

Rethoric was never Bush's strongest side.

Rhetoric either!

Posted at Logic users forum in Yahoo groups:

I have it from a reliable source that Apple is reconsidering the decision to pull development for Logic's PC clients. That doesn't mean it's definite, but it is a possibility. I highly recommend that all of the PC users out there wait at least until the release of 5.2 before spending a bunch of money on Cubase. Apple is feeling the backlash of it's early intentions. I personally believe that the damage to collaborative efforts between PC and Mac users has a lot to do with this development. Do not jump to Cubase in a frantic move until you can be certain that Apple is firm on its decision.
The jury is out. I recommend you take this opportunity to contact Apple and express you opinion on the matter.

It is signed: A ray of hope!

_________________
Paul R. Martin - Are we listening?

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hi out there,

i tried cubase sx a little and i´m feeling quite uncomftable on it, since i´m missing logic´s hyper editor, which i´m using a lot to compose druming sequenzes. has anybody of you an idea of how i could find a similar way to programm drums on sx (i tried the drum editor, but when i have more than 1 sound playing on the same beat, i can´t edit the velocity easily without having to open another window).

ideas??

felix

Here are soem interesting comments on Apples decision -> http://alexanderpublishing.com/emagic/

Immanuel

Be one of the many to ask Emagic (Apple) tp continue the development of the windows version -> http://www.petitiononline.com/aewp/petition.html

Immanuel

let 'em know.

great idea. i did sign already.

felix

Yes, quite a blow!

I've been using Logic Audio on the PC since v1 (1991 i seem to recall).

I too am shocked.

True, it was always far better and more quickly developed in the earlier days on MAC than PC but I thought recently that It had become a seriously great PC program equal to the MAC version and definitely a cheaper option for us musicians who'd rather spend the extra money on a Virus synth, a mixer, some good mics or some other thing that actually makes a sound and is actually an instrument and retains it's value...

How curious that just when PC audio begins to encroach on the MAC market it's killed off...

Shame, It runs far better on my PC than on my PowerMAC and there are so many more free/cheap processing/software developement options for the PC than MAC by far these days (hardware and software) if you leave out Protools HD of course which is MAC only.

Biggest problem i can see for us Scope Developers is that Scope DP(the thing we use to make our Creamware compatible plug-ins) does not run on MAC (yet) so we are stuck in the middle of this ridiculous anti-musical war.....not many of us will be able or willing to pay the huge price of developement on the MAC platform...Steinberg will love it!

sayton
De-Vice'

U said your powermac wasn't as good as your PC? Let us know wich models u got,
Logic for mac was always better, allowing the use use DAE/TDM systems. This was impossible to do on the pc. I had logic for both the PC and the mac and I thought the PC version sucked. Overload errors and stuff....

Emagic did the right thing, now they can concentrate on the only pro-audio OS's ; OS9 and OSX!

blah blah blah Logic for the Mac is better. blah blah blah.

Sign the petition...

Hold off Buying Cubase SX if you are a Logic PC User.

Do not buy a Mac!

On 2002-07-13 18:45, onomat wrote:
Biggest problem i can see for us Scope Developers is that Scope DP(the thing we use to make our Creamware compatible plug-ins) does not run on MAC (yet) so we are stuck in the middle of this ridiculous anti-musical war.....not many of us will be able or willing to pay the huge price of developement on the MAC platform...Steinberg will love it!

sayton
De-Vice'

i don´t understand your point, since scope dp is still working under pc and i thought, you can build plugs under pc and let them run on a mac? and there are still enough (in future maybee more cubase) user who are still using their pc´s, maybe with a second pc (a mac one maybe; if you can afford it) and run e.g sx, gigasampler and pulsar on pc and audio and vsti or even a ported version of sx (maybe steinberg does it) on mac or what ever configuration you dream of.

so why do you feel stuck in the middle of doing things. i would like to encourage you to continue developing, since i think, that a solution like pulsar (hardware key for software) is the only possibility to survive for developers (to many cracks around).

felix

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Don't listen to a BrainCell... Better listen to braincells... I thought the same as that guy with that one and only BrainCell last year. I'm mature enough to keep my eyes open for better things, and I found it (mac). Hope your lonely braincell gets a few friends up there. Sad is when (for any reason) a smaller company decides to shut mac users, then it's all ok. When the same thing happens to the PC users (being the minorioty here) then HELL brakes loose... hmmm why's that?

MAC.


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Enough of this BS allready...

Kim.