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So i guess we have two competing forces now. On one side, we have the current Elite of the banks. These will bring more war to the middle east, and put alot of refugees towards europe, bringing riots and wars because of culture clashes. Even 15 year olds understand we cant coexist, i read.

Then again, on the other hand, we have a different Elite, not telling us the truth about this new planet X coming into our solar system. they will not tell us the truth, because:
"If it had happened that we would had known these things from decades ago, this would had caused a world paralysis: riots, politician trials, desperation and a complete social chaos, everyone would had asked for protection, the system would had collapsed. Silence had avoided these disasters to come to be."

So one Elite wants riots and chaos, and people calling for protection. The other Elite wants to avoid it, going all-in to avoid chaos and public calls for protection. Both are apparently evil. Surely they cant be the same people? Are they even People, as in human beings?

edit: mistyped a word

all interesting questions.
none of them may even be relevant depending on what the commoners do.

nobody has even a clue as to what, exactly, is going on. the universe is a big place. we can make observations and inferences and some have written books and some made movies. we'll likely never have definite answers about anything, although many will claim otherwise.

one thing is pretty clear form the large amount of circumstantial evidence, and that is that whoever runs this place has little regard for anybody in particular. the politicians are not worried about you, except on a local, personal level, and the same is true about the bankers on any level. all of these people may fill an important role in society, but there's no reason to trust them.

Nestor wrote:The plan of the elite that is behind these moves: the central bank, the Federal Reserve and Goldman Sachs, to name just a few of the forces behind. The war is going to spread all around the Middle East, exactly as they want, so to bring total control.

Touché !
I agree 100%.

Cool site here, but in german only unfortunately.
http://www.wissensmanufaktur.net/externe-videos



Bud

Pastor, this is way more complicated that your questions suggest.

Those who control the world use social unrest to their benefit, so if they “produce” some of it, they have a “cause” with a calculated “effect” they want to achieve. When riots or other forms of social unrest comes up by themselves, they are not wanted by the elite, of course, because want they want is to control the events to their benefit. The elite ruling this world is one and only one, even if it is formed by many fronts.

But, if somebody tells you many things and they never come to be true, he does not know what he is talking about even if he projects his ideas in the best of wills, or even if he is very well informed under the parameters of what it is considered in this society to be clever. In the other hand, if somebody tells you many things and they all become reality, consistently, in that case, even if you don’t believe or understand how or why this person may know certain things in advance, what matters is that they ARE real.

True Gary, the universe is incredibly big, and holds infinite possibilities, that is why among them it is also the possibility of some people to know something that the rest does not know.

Bud Weiser wrote:

Nestor wrote:The plan of the elite that is behind these moves: the central bank, the Federal Reserve and Goldman Sachs, to name just a few of the forces behind. The war is going to spread all around the Middle East, exactly as they want, so to bring total control.

Touché !
I agree 100%.

Cool site here, but in german only unfortunately.
http://www.wissensmanufaktur.net/externe-videos



Bud

Very cool indeed, but nevertheless, it has this VERY GOOD video inside, which is in English, it is worth it and in a fun way they show you how money works really and why war makes so much money:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU#t=898

In case you did not know about this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqD8lIdIMRo

Venezuela is going through one of the most amazing uprising in history right now! Its economy is a complete disaster now.

Yeah, the average people pay the price for desastrous management of country and resources.

Brasil is also hopeless.

And not to forget Argentina: reports show that things are getting worse and worse.

quote from the link below:

'the resulting reports are painting an increasingly grim picture of the country’s current economic landscape [...]
The results showed that the pace of the country’s recession is accelerating, with the latest month showing the biggest contraction by far,'.

http://www.buenosairesherald.com/articl ... data-shows

YouTube is being censored:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJKfe4jjUdg

Nestor wrote:YouTube is being censored:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJKfe4jjUdg

Quite a lot of sites are being cencored, even PlanetZ, but the video you are linking to is concerning demonetization, which is something completly different. They both usually have a common reason though, and that is breach of the "Terms of use".

pastor wrote:

Nestor wrote:YouTube is being censored:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJKfe4jjUdg

Quite a lot of sites are being cencored, even PlanetZ, but the video you are linking to is concerning demonetization, which is something completly different. They both usually have a common reason though, and that is breach of the "Terms of use".

of course, this is correct. however, i find it very interesting that in this world "policy" has replaced "morality".

garyb wrote:

pastor wrote:

Nestor wrote:YouTube is being censored:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJKfe4jjUdg

Quite a lot of sites are being cencored, even PlanetZ, but the video you are linking to is concerning demonetization, which is something completly different. They both usually have a common reason though, and that is breach of the "Terms of use".

of course, this is correct. however, i find it very interesting that in this world "policy" has replaced "morality".

I see your point, allthough "morality" varies quite a bit based on who you ask and might be hard to standarize.

no, it's not that hard.
it's only hard when one wishes to make things more convenient. just do your best...

I think there are interests behind these legislation moves not totally honest. Open reasons are shown to my understanding in a confusing way. After all, Youtube is THE video platform of the world, even if there are better ones, so how could it not be closely watched by those in power?

Then do something positive, Nestor, your country is going down, and you just stay aside?!
Join the protest, just like the people do in Venezuela.

Buenos Aires Herald:

'Federal March brings together broad range of leaders as unions call for general strike

Tens of thousands of workers and union activists marched through the streets of Buenos Aires and other major cities across Argentina yesterday to vent their shared frustration at the economic austerity, widespread job losses and soaring cost of living under President Mauricio Macri’s Let’s Change (Cambiemos) administration. In that context, leaders called for a general strike if existing socio-economic policies are not changed.
The country’s largest umbrella trade unions in the CTA and CGT, plus many of their affiliate unions gathered in huge numbers outside the presidential Pink House at Plaza de Mayo. The demonstration was the finish line for a number of journeys that had departed days ago from provinces all over the country.'


Buenos Aires, yesterday, same mass protests as in Venezuela:

In Venezuela they waited too long to protest.
Chavez daughter escaped with billions of the peoples money.

Now they gather to find food.

Thats the problem with Socialism not backed by capitalism.
You eventually run out of other peoples money.

dawman wrote:In Venezuela they waited too long to protest.
Chavez daughter escaped with billions of the peoples money.

Now they gather to find food.

Thats the problem with Socialism not backed by capitalism.
You eventually run out of other peoples money.

Corruption is the main cause of Brasil and Argentina going down.
Corruption is stealing money from the ordinary people.
For them it doesn't matter if they get robbed by corruptive compatriots or by unqualified self-defined socialists.

When Chavez still was alive I already saw news items about the dangers of his policy: using the oil money to redevide the national recourses formerly going to the oil elite, but without investing in a decent economy.
When the oil prices went down it was over, and Chavez' successors wherever worse.
Brasil and Argentina aren't any better, seen from the view of the people in the streets.

They waited to long, true, but hey, if you were to say somthing, you would be killed, so this is why... poor people.

Nestor wrote:They waited to long, true, but hey, if you were to say somthing, you would be killed, so this is why... poor people.

Then join the protests...

We have stupid protests today in the UK 'March for Europe'

Poor little snowflakes don't like like it when democracy doesn't 'work'. We are not 'doing an Ireland referendum', that's it. No more. Deal with it.