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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:17 am
by astroman
yes, crackling can have various sources, wrong sync and interupt sharing the most common ones.
But in your case it is the routing through soundcard destination (in fact I'm really astound that it works at all)

The 'sync' you refer to applies to cables (s/pdif) or adat connections (optical) between devices, for example to read out a CD player digitally you have to slave the receiver to the clock of the sender.

It does not apply to virtual (software) connections.

you really should bring your monitor into the Scope world, it WILL improve the soundquality to a stunning degree, no kidding.

if you don't have or plan to include a lot of outbord gear then any DSP card with IO plate is ok. You will also gain processing power by additional DSPs and possibly some bundles software.
You have to weigh what's important for you to make the 'best' choice - it's worth the effort. If in doubt about an offer, feel free to ask here.

if you have a few external sources, then it's most convenient to add a DSP card plus a converter box.
For example a Luna should be available with an quality IO box with 8 channels for about 500 Euro.
This is a very good value as you gain 50% more DSP power than you have plus analog and digital IOs in top quality.

I have another box with the latest onboard VIA sound and it's among the best 'soundcard stuff' I've heard - it's really good, ... until I switch over to the Pulsar and realize how 'tiny' and crappy the VIA sound is.

cheers, Tom

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:17 pm
by zodiak
a guy on a french forum tell me i have to buy a syncplate extension . he explain to me that it's synchro problem between terratec and pulsar xtc cards

too important digital flow does not allow a perfect synchronization between these cards
& maybe i need a syncplate daughter card...

is it possible ? because this syncplate card cost approximately 200 euros argh./////

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:51 pm
by garyb
no, if you want to use scope mode just get i/o plate or another used scope card with i/o and skip the terratec. you won't miss the terratec card anyway.

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:51 am
by astroman
the Terratec card doesn't even have a connector for the synce plate... :wink:

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:57 am
by zodiak
an odd trick also: i put the terratec on 44.100 Hz - i launches scope,
and there the terratec is immediatly fixed at 48.000 Hz without my intervention...
the samplerate of scope is well to 44.100 Hz
in the same time (cannot change that)

after that I launch cubase : in "project settings", it's on 44.100 Hz, the terratec remains to 48.000 and the scope
with 44.100 Hz...

the cracks could come from these differences ?
don't understand why terratec is putting alone on 48.000 Hz...
in the scope windows routing, soundcard dest & soundcard source are on 44.100... no difference if i put on 48.000Hz, cracks always here...

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:19 am
by garyb
yes, that's it.
why? because....
it's probably not fixable like this.

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:43 pm
by zodiak
i can't because i have no digital or analogs I/O on my pulsar xtc... nothing to put my monitors or headphones for hearing if it's OK

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:58 pm
by astroman
whatever you hear in this type of setup will NEVER be ok, because the 'Soundcard Destination' limits the signal to 16 bit and that card's processing is (almost certainly) crap because it's designed for a different purpose.
It may have some impressive numbers, but that's only because it's customers are supposed to be impressed by numbers, not facts :wink:

Lunas have been sold on eBay for less than 150 Euro, so what are you waiting for ?

The only way you could use your current setup is to monitor through the sequencer's mixer using the Terratec with WDM drivers and route the stuff from SFP via ASIO destinations.

With proper buffers you won't get dropouts, but you'll have ASIO latency plus WDM latency plus the crappy sound of the soundcard.

cheers, Tom

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:26 am
by zodiak
in fact, i want to turn in scope mode because i want to buy & try modular III with flexor...
i've decided to buy only modular and flexor, i'll made patches with few cracks under scope, save the patches i made, and after i read somewhere in this forum that it's possible to run modular III and flexor under XTC... maybe i'll buy a luna in a few weeks (cause soundcard+modular+flexor is a little bit expensive for me in one time)

can U confirm to me we can use modular & flexor under XTC ?

thanx a lot to all of you guys

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:44 am
by ali
no modulars/nosamplers & no Mixers under XTC.

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:02 am
by zodiak
mmmmh... i have to search, but i remember a topic says that we can play a modular patch (only play, no editing or building, just like a synth) after renaming the file or something like that...

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:09 am
by zodiak
nobody to confirm this ?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:27 am
by Guest
CAN SOME ONE HELP ME TO FIND HOW TO WORK WITH SCOPE 4.5 COZ i wnat TO WORK with Optional Plug-Ins but they don`t work i have them i installthem everything but computer ask me for activ.. key i giv pres ok still don`t load if some on here that no to fisk my problem ??

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:15 am
by astroman
looks like you slightly misinterpreted the thread's title :wink:
first there are no w*rez (of any kind) around here and second, with regard to Scope plugins they don't even exist.

cheers, Tom

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:17 am
by bill3107
Montpellier est dans la place aussi les frenchies ! hum... sorry remember that we talk engligh here. Well, when you have 2 creamware cards (linked by the stdm cable) when you open the window for slave/master option, there is one sole option : both cards are gathered, that means that the creamware system can be slave or master... As for a luna, you are right prices have been curbed... If you want to add 3 dsp and in/outs, you may find one at 130/150 euros. Pulsar2 remain more pricey (let say 350 euros now).

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:30 am
by zodiak
4.0
i've abandonned... maybe one day when creamware cards will have less bugs...

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:08 pm
by Guest
WHERE CAN I FINDE 4.5 keys ????

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:37 pm
by bassdude
Have you actually bought the 4.5 upgrade or the optional devices you want to use?

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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:24 pm
by Shayne White
On 2006-07-13 10:30, zodiak wrote:
4.0
i've abandonned... maybe one day when creamware cards will have less bugs...
Don't abandon Scope yet!! You just haven't used it properly yet, that's all. The "Soundcard Dest" goes through MME and will be slow and have lots of latency -- not at all good for synths! You've got to get either an I/O plate or a second card from the Scope family (Scope Home, probably). Please, please consider one of those options. Once you've done that, Scope should work great.

Shayne

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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:27 pm
by Flyerfred
Hi everyone,

I also had some craking noises from time to time while using Cubase SX3/Scope v4.0 on a p5b Asus mobo with 2Gb ram & intel p6600 dual core cpu (with two CW cards, a 6 & a 3 DSP), all running on Win XP Pro.

I checked everything proposed here to stop the noises: check IRQ conflicts, disabling USB controllers, etc etc. And still some noises.

And finally, I found that by:

- putting the cubase process priority to the max (real time) as suggested by Gary
- disabling totally internet
- disabling all not needed softs for music (including antivirus, as the only virus I have is an TI)

And... such a clean sound all the time!

:D <- that's me now