Control surface

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:42 am

Now that's what I'm talking 'bout. The forum is similar to the Z. Happy, and vibrant. Very few whiners like I see @ the Giga forums, which are intolerable, 4 so many people buy the app., and b4 they even open the manual start whining 4 help. I wish they would just go away and come back after reading a few pages, Jeez.

I will be contacting the US builder of circuits very soon.

Thanks,

moxi · Post by **moxi** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:10 am

DIY is not one of my strengths, is there a specialty shop in Deustchland somewhere, where I could send a design, and have something built ?

I think it's often possible to find someone that will help you to build a box, but consider first the wishes of the creator of the project, that want it "DIY" and non-commercial, so no one is supposed to ask you money to build you a box - so if you really want to someone else to help you, think a trade in a "non-commercial" way, in accordance with the spirit of this project.

And in all case keep the time to benefit of all the educational work the creator have done .
All is really well explained to start to build something even if you never hold an iron solder... I think it's a great thing to know how is working your gear, even if of course it will always remain some "mystical" things that probably only the creator of the project know!.

as I say to Irrevelance, the Seq was my first DIY project, and before Ihave only solder some cables at work...

Don't think it will be too long or impossible cause you are overbooked, spending one or two hours a week on your box and it will be finished in two month..

And really, no other gear than the one you build yourself will be so valuate for you, it's like your children.. (hope my wife n childrens won't read this !

about the shop, it's true that Smash Tv sell much nicer PCBs, but consider that buying at Mike shop will let you have a german people to explain you things you don't understand, Mike as SmashTV propose a really great support! In all way it's a lot of people on this project located in Deustchland, just take a look on the MIDIbox Frappr: http://www.frappr.com/midibox

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:23 am

That works 4 me. I just sent a high quality recording mic to a developer for a custom project. So barter is good. Besides I can get products here in the States that are much cheaper than what my European Brethren are paying.

I shall begin looking into a design that suits my needs, Thanks 4 a great thread, and another quality German idea.

NAS · Post by **NAS** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:55 am

Sorry about that
It sounded like i was down on Mikes kits

Far from it
I have bought from Mike and Smash
As a total noob when i started uCapps designs though i found Smashs kits just a little easier to work on
Both suppliers are great and indeed do both offer great support

fraz · Post by **fraz** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:39 am

moxi wrote:here is the seq I've build, it's a really awesome gear, with a perfect timing, and the next update will let you use it as MIDI controler too in the same time! :

on the other side I use the MIDIbox64E to control the scope Mixer and some synth.

I hope one day creamware cards will support the Mackie protocol cause it's possible to build a mackie control emulation with the MIDIbox project...If the new boss can read this.... , or at least will add some usefull functions as automap for easy setup of the midi controls...

Do you make these for anyone? - If so, how much?

moxi · Post by **moxi** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:55 am

Do you make these for anyone? - If so, how much?

---->so I quote myself:

PostPosted: 12 Mar 2007 17:10 Post subject:
Quote:
I think it's often possible to find someone that will help you to build a box, but consider first the wishes of the creator of the project, that want it "DIY" and non-commercial, so no one is supposed to ask you money to build you a box - so if you really want to someone else to help you, think a trade in a "non-commercial" way, in accordance with the spirit of this project.

And in all case keep the time to benefit of all the educational work the creator have done .
All is really well explained to start to build something even if you never hold an iron solder... I think it's a great thing to know how is working your gear, even if of course it will always remain some "mystical" things that probably only the creator of the project know!.

as I say to Irrevelance, the Seq was my first DIY project, and before I have only solder some cables at work...

from my side, I like too much the Idea that you Do It Yourself, and Know It Yourself...by this way, knowledge (even if less complicate than what do engineer in commercial world) is well shared and not stay the property of only few people...
So my mind will be proud to help your hands to build your own , as far as I could be usefull

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moxi · Post by **moxi** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:01 pm

Both suppliers are great and indeed do both offer great support

...and one complement other, the two are doing their work fine, that have to be said !

Post by **irrelevance** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:49 pm

I like the expanded track view on your sequencer moxi. I'm thinking this may be the way to go...or, I could go for the external matrix controller. But it looks like early days for the matrix design. Hmm not sure? The thing I like about this project is that you can always expand on your original design so nothing is wasted.

moxi · Post by **moxi** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:22 pm

In fact, using it I realize that I don't check so much the step LEDs cause I most often check the LCDs, but it's nice...
The matrix of buttons will be supported for the V3 , with the possibility to use dual colored LEDs -great to see if accent have been set or no , not sure by wich way this option will be used. As I know it's already working... that represent a lot of additional soldering but I think I will build the butons matrix for my next box (yes I want another one, mainly to have a more solid build)..

On the other hand, it's already possible to use a button matrix with the V2, I've modded the application to test that - with success but maybe with some performance issue that I was not abble to mesure myself- but I didn't finalise the hardware cause the matrix I've build was done with old and crappy button... and as I'm not a programmer, that have been done "in my way" : 100 lines of stupid code where TK (the creator of this project) do that in 10 line!!

I think my code is stil somewhere in the MB forum...

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:35 pm

This excites me like a free device. I have read into the forum there, and realise I must do this. I will build a box that controls my mixer, and also doubles as my synth surface. So I have a lot of work to do. Thanks again moxi 4 an awesome chunk of knowledge, worth it's weight in gold.
Remember the Golden Rule ..........................................................................................
" He who has the gold,..makes the rules."

I Shall Return,.........................General Douglas MacArthur, December 1941.

moxi · Post by **moxi** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:55 pm

..an army of Pulzarians comin on the MIDIbox

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:13 pm

Now your'e bouncin' ideas 'round. Sucsess, and safety in numbers.

mjproc · Post by **mjproc** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:44 am

I use the midibox seq v2 together with a noah ex, behringer fc1010, cme5
havn't yet tried it against scope..... why would I?

So far I've only touched the surface of what midibox seqV2 can do. I mainly use it against pro1, minimax and edsi8.

Using midibox to control ie vocodizer (against an analog synth on the analog inputs) is great too... I find the lack of realtime encoders/buttons on the noah a real pain, midibox helps alot..

I have ordered V3 components now

I will also build the button/duo led control surface .. .. ..

For those new to diy (as I am): It will take many hours to solder, debug and manufactor a frontpanel (if you don't order a premade), I started 6 months ago, and got it 100% working approx 2 weeks ago...

I would 100% do it again!! I REALLY recommend this diy kit, and as mentioned in this thread, midibox community is alot like this community. The midibox nr1 guru TK directly helps both diy newbies and pro's.

Post by **irrelevance** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:29 am

I've been soaking up info from the wiki and forums at ucapps.de for a few days now. Seems like a great community over there and TK is indeed a tech Guru!
I've been using Numerology on my mac laptop to control my supernova II and FS1R when I don't want to turn on my Scope and stare at a screen for too long.
Looking forward to building a V2/3 sequencer and then letting rip on my external synths

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:11 pm

I regret not buying the FS1R when it was around. It mixes beautifully w/ analog synths 4 great moving pads w/ FM tails.

Post by **irrelevance** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:00 am

I was lucky enough to pick mine up on ebay a few years back from a studio in germany. Prices have gone up since then and there aren't as many around so you have to be quick! I retired my sy77 to the loft because of this, although I do miss having the customized algo's and gritty fx
Programming sessions can take longer than I would like some days

It's a good idea to make notes for future sessions. I use it mostly for arped formant stuff for really deep throaty acid seqences

and highpass swooshes/ pads, just add a bit of noise and sweep the formants...clear as crystal and this sounds like nothing else