E-MU Releases DSP Recording Cards

spacef · Post by **spacef** » Sun Jan 25, 2004 6:53 pm

i wonder if in this case it allows sfp not to slow down with loads of audio tracks (pci bus), or not (it's a pci card anyway)...
ps i had a sblive with the scope and it was ok. but when the sts came, i switched all the sf2 banks to sts, and the sound is really not comparable. I'm not ready to go creativelabs again, but emu? Another perfect sampler for me would be Vsampler but i had a few bugs in the demo and is pretty heavy...

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next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Sun Jan 25, 2004 8:54 pm

oh, and i hope emu/creative havent put the same DSPs in there as in the audigy 2, which also claims to be 24/196. this is just a half-truth, because when the audigy2 DSPs kick in, audio is downsampeled to 48000. this applies to ALL DSP treatment, even speaker placement.

valis · Post by **valis** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:34 pm

That's a limitation of the long-winded emu10k chip which is an emu10k2 in the "audigy" lines. All sound is actually *always* rendered to 48khz inside the chip, oddly enough it even resamples when the input is 48khz!

Since the new cards have the "E"chip instead of the 10k(2) you would HOPE that they would address this, but Creative Labs definately does like to market bugs as features...

Eric Dahlberg · Post by **Eric Dahlberg** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 3:11 am

On 2004-01-25 18:53, spacef wrote:
i wonder if in this case it allows sfp not to slow down with loads of audio tracks (pci bus), or not (it's a pci card anyway)...

It shouldn't make a difference, the sampler is completely native aside from the effects.

huffcw · Post by **huffcw** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 8:21 pm

Something interesting... I received an email from EMU today - and they indicated that they plan on opening up development for the DSP to third-party developers. They also plan on developing additional effects for it to purchase as add-ons.

They said a more thorough description of the included effects and MP3 examples will be available on their web site soon.

Also, they confirmed that all of the synth and sampler features run on the CPU - not the DSP.

edmann · Post by **edmann** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:15 pm

the converters sound great

spacef · Post by **spacef** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 6:31 am

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Will Emulator X support Ensoniq EPS16 floppy import (read from floppy?) , there is no converter which works in Win XP.

-Not at this time

Also, it would be great to be able to switch from a pci card to a pcmcia/usb2/or firewire, for laptop portability.

-E-mu has recognized the growing laptop market in pro audio- while we are not announcing our plans for future products at ths time- we do have a comprehensive product "roadmap" and intend to broaden our Digital Audio Systems line beyond PCI.

There is no "beat slicing" in emulator X ?

- No Emulator X does not have "beat slicing"

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spacef · Post by **spacef** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 6:35 am

but well, a possible new CW card may postpone such a neat investment : the problem is that only the 1820 has 2 sets discrete outputs, and one specialized for 5.1 (or 7.1) multimedia speakers. Now you can get great multimedia speakers for less than 80 euros (if you search well). Very good to begin 5.1 "just for the fun" (like i will do, beleiving a 5.1 setup would be good for my dvds 90% of the time). So if you think that way, you are in for the 600 usd annouced price...
http://www.zzounds.com/prodsearch?form= ... ubmit.y=11

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ScofieldKid · Post by **ScofieldKid** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:04 pm

Just as a caveat for other prospective buyers of this card, the "PatchMIX DSP" driver interface is an ungodly mess.

I have a 1212M, and getting it to work in ASIO talking with my Creamware cards was an adventure in pain, and unsuccessful. Reboots aside, it's just not a predictable interface.

It was easy enough to talk to it as "Soundcard Dest", but that gets you to the WAVE driver, I believe. Tried 24, 32, v1 and v2. Note, my Creamware loads before my EMU, so the ASIO technically should exists so that the EMU can see it.

I think other companies have done a much better job of producing routing menues for their cards. Truly sucky. An otherwise great product is spoiled because they couldn't develop a decent interface.

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:50 am

unfortunately, the sampler eats up cpu-power like candys...
(about 20 vioces on a p4 3.0)
poor in compare to kontakt e.g.
there are no problems using scope and emuX together b.t.w.

the gui is unuseable, indeed!
(and you CANNOT load emu-partitions! for that job, you have to use helion)

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