Scope working like a DSP only dedicated card (no I/O)

[R.D. Olivaw]

On 2005-06-17 16:46, garyb wrote:
o.k., use your rme even though there's no advantage, it doesn't matter to me. use a digidesign card or a layla, i still see no advantage.

Some people (like me) absolutely need pro tools. I do not like it especially, except when it comes to edits, where i work about *2 faster than with other hosts. And sadly, PT is a standart and a lot of engineers need it. Here are my personal "advantages" of using a Digidesign sound card. I'd buy a large Scope system if it were provided w/o I/O and if it were well integrated w/ VST (I'd love to use a Scope environment as a multi I/O VST/VSTi) and other brands'drivers friendly...
Waiting for that, I'll stick with Noah & UAD1s.

regards

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: r_Daneel Olivaw on 2005-06-22 13:21 ]</font>

[sharc]

On 2005-06-22 12:10, symbiote wrote:
I have no trouble building a functionnal 486 right now...

...Sorry, was a bit lost for words there.

I suppose in this case I'd have to ask do you currently use a 486? and how would you feel if you needed to?

[sharc]

As for the topic in question...

I think a dedicated dsp card (no i/o) would be a good idea ...At least at the budget end of the spectrum. But to be honest, surely the majority of Scope users must feel that the i/o options available on Scope Cards are one of the systems real strong points and furthermore, that the flexible routing capabilities of the Scope System are probably second to none.

[symbiote]

On 2005-06-22 13:41, sharc wrote:

...Sorry, was a bit lost for words there.

I suppose in this case I'd have to ask do you currently use a 486? and how would you feel if you needed to?

Yes, until a few months ago I still used a 486DX-50 as a router/gateway/firewall running OpenBSD, and it worked fine. I used it everyday, with screen + few irc clients + lynx thru SSH, stayed up for months at a time. I recently upgraded it to a K6-2 350 (since my ISP upgraded my DSL line speed, the 486 was being maxed out a bit when doing lots of packet filtering), and it still works fine and getting heavy use. I'll be hanging onto that 486 for testing stuff, it's a great little machine to test unstable/experimental kernels and other various experimental things, honeypots, etc.

In the context of CWA cards, an older machine really isn't a problem as the computer is only there as an interface, with a pair of A16U you can get 32 channels of 24/96 audio from/to another machine, or you can use ADAT, thus skipping having to use a sequencing program on the host computer. People want some sort of all-in-one stupid box, but a computer with a couple CWA cards and an A16U is *exactly* that, with a KVM switch you don't even need a separate monitor/mouse/keyboard to control it either. It'll behave *exactly* like a standard hardware effects box sitting in your rack, except it'll have more routing options and less crappy interface (320x200 LCD vs 1600x1200, mm, I wonder which one is nicer.) So it's not like options don't exist. I'm not sure exactly why people make sure a fuss about these things.

[astroman]

we've a Pentium II/233 serving an Oracle7 database in the company - dunno for how long exactly, but in probably 8 years it crashed just one single time due to a CPU cooler fan stuck. Replaced the fan and it's up since then continuously...

cheers, Tom

[JL]

On 2005-06-22 01:44, astroman wrote:

On 2005-06-21 22:00, BLUEmotion wrote:
Realtime(almost). ...

while we're at it - that can be quite misleading, and is not restricted to the digital domain ...

You can 'afford' any (reasonable) latency as long as you can guarantee those samples you want to match are positioned accurately on the timeline up to the sample's precision.
Anything else is pure nonsense and randomisation of the audio (mix)output

I know I know...
My point is that it is realtime enough for me.
I wish they could integrate the whole SFP to Cubase. There is going to be a huge latency before that happens.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: BLUEmotion on 2005-06-22 18:09 ]</font>

[okantah]

I hope CREAMWARE will concentrate on their own tools,designes & image.at this moment the CREAMWARE CARDS remains the audio solution when it's come's to all stardard,either from games to the music production,CW's DSP use,run out quickly & it's a bit expensive for all,and there are those who try to intergrate other systems to avoid the DSP use,which didn't seems success & then turn to demand from CW something of more FANTACY fulfilment.