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i think that SCOPE on vista 64 will be like PARADISE.
i won't ask for help astroman. it will be all perfect

sure it will - at least one reasonable application among all the M$ crap

cheers, Tom
humming to the 'Rehab' tune... they tried to make me go to VISTA, I say No, No, No

astroman wrote:humming to the 'Rehab' tune... they tried to make me go to VISTA, I say No, No, No

Brilliant..

no hexs required at this time.

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in windows 9 will it be a compatibility mode for vista64

It's like ChronicSore have gone from one extreme (as CreamWare giving away drivers AND software updates and for years) to the other (giving away nothing at all).

I guess the old system helped them go broke. Perhaps there's a happy medium to strike.

Bleh windoze...

How about a Linux driver or just GPL the source so a Linux driver for SonicCore cards can be developed?

Since Scope needs its own hardware I can't see any disadvantage for SonicCore to do do this. It may even help excite and future proof the Scope platform.

Stop strangling such a great sounding product please.

BTW, you are quite the talented photographer.
Beautiful gallery.

And I couldn't agree more.
I have been noticing how well those Muse Receptors handle big Romplers and use smaller RAM footprints.
Linux works great for them.

been tortured by it just yesterday night...
needed a small utility to make special kind of disk, downloaded one of those tiny distros supposed run from an USB stick - which it eventually did...

but don't ask me why and how, a total mess (and confusion for anyone not familiar with compiling his own private kernel)

I mean... that stuff was targeted on recovery jobs (or the like), a fairly compact system with only the most basic stuff - I could have installed a full OSX in the same time...
without one ambiguous screen and without any questions asked.

As long as they shell out the system in that particular way (which I consider absolutely unnecessary, btw) it is dead even before it reaches the client's storage device.
Linux has the capabilities, no question - but it's not a real option either...
not if you can get a cheapo Apple machine that does the job and allows you to fiddle with whatever low level stuff you like.

cheers, Tom

Have to agree there... it's not a friendly OS at all!

However, it seems to be very good for embedded systems (a lot of network-attached storage devices use it, as do cashpoints, gambling machines, touch-screen information centres...) I'm sure there's a few digital mixing desks that are embedded Unix/Linux systems too.

The problem seems to come from customisation: people aren't happy to buy an expensive digital console when the alternative (a computer) is much more flexible and can be changed to suit the individual user, yet people complain when they don't get perfect integration and compatibility with whatever unique requirements and working methods that they have!

See also: video game consoles VS computers...

Cheers!

Chris

well, imho the computer has spoilt it's reputation completely during the last decade (and maybe a bit more...)
I'd rather buy dedicated gear if I were in production

let's take Jimmy V (Xite4Live) as an example - he'd simply be p*ssed off in PC jungle if there wasn't someone like GaryB to preselect things for him
I wouldn't really complain about the crap personally, as it assures my job and keeps the balance healthy.
But as a matter of fact that stuff is just that: hot smelly air over a big brown loaf
c'mon - a wordprocessor allocating half a gig of virtual memory LMAO

if you know the ingredients of a stable system - build it like that for one specific task
and then better don't ever change it again - rather build another one to experiment or for a different purpose.
not environmentally correct, but who cares anyway if it's cheap.

I recently bought an old Roland multitracker/sampler - actually more or less for it's FX unit. It has a Space Echo emulation and was cheaper than the current Boss Pedal... and it sound's f*cking great for a box from 1999
The recording part is kinda bitchy about disk formats and doesn't eat what I feed it, but that's just a matter of time until I find a matching drive.

Nevertheless the machine seems to have some advantages in operation because it's limited.
The learning curve is tremendous in the very beginning as most stuff you 'just' need happens to be hidden in submenu option 3 or deeper...
But as the # of paths is limited, you quickly get familiar with the buttons and their options and you get to the point extremely quick.
I assume the same applies to the recording section as well.
Ok - it's more or less an idea scratch pad with it's 4 stereo tracks (1 record - 3 playback), but the hands-on-hardware is a clear advantage.

Sorry, a bit long winded - but that is really my point regarding Scope and it's future.
No matter what and however it's done, productivity should be the first concern.
Not a ton of options and possibilities.
If you have a choice, you may delay a decision that otherwise would be here and now - and not perhaps tomorrow...
The very same applies to (most of) the Linux stuff as well - with embedded systems it works pretty good, but as soon as those options of a user interface appear...

cheers, Tom

Exactly.

In fact, this has a (very vague) connection to an idea I've had for a psychological study:

Ask two randomly chosen groups of people to make a cup of tea: milk, and two sugars.

Group 1 has: a kettle, teabags, a pot of milk, a bowl of sugar and a teaspoon.

Group 2 has: a kettle, teabags, a pot of milk, a bunch of sugarcubes and a teaspoon.

And see which group takes longer to make their cup of tea!

Is the tea any better for the fact that Group 1 could, if they wanted to, count out every grain of sugar, while Group 2 had predetermined amounts? I doubt it!

astroman wrote:I recently bought an old Roland multitracker/sampler - actually more or less for it's FX unit. It has a Space Echo emulation and was cheaper than the current Boss Pedal... and it sound's f*cking great for a box from 1999

Yeah, Roland used to make some excellent sampling gear. Sharc & I used to use one of their S-750 samplers about 12/13 years ago & it's sound was stunning. A couple of years later I bought one of their JS-30 samplers. It was 16-bit & very basic with only 4meg ram (expanded), but what a sound !!

Mark

Sorry if you misunderstood my post. I'm happy with the Scope platform; I just would like it to run on a linux system. Please don't confuse this with perceived windows / linux usability.

I personally can't see it happening Maxol. It would be like opening a can of worms in development terms for SONIC CORE because you'd be talking about porting the whole platform including the SDK. Apart from the development costs for porting it all to Linux, there's then the issue of large numbers of Linux users complaining about the fact that the various software involved isn't Open Source. Like I said, it's a can of worms. I could be completely wrong, but if it happens I'll be pretty shocked.

Mark