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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:53 pm
by Gordon Gekko
hubird wrote:I want more ADAT connections

then buy two xite-1s

32 ok? no? how 'bout 64... let's get crazy 128???

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:10 pm
by Gordon Gekko
yeah sorry but, i'm interested in what flavors the xstdm snake connector comes available:
2?
4??
8???
16????
32?????
cuz
well ya know
I can afford this shit

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:10 pm
by hubird
you can always buy the Xite later

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:16 pm
by braincell
Yes, when you win the lottery.
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:30 pm
by Gordon Gekko
braincell, the thing is you are one of their target users. but you feel rejected because you already spent cash on a product that only gets better and better over the years. I'm sad because you make good music. 4K$? cheap if you consider you won't need anything else to record your most cherish songs for the next ten years or so. if this thing delivers 10 times the power of current 14 dsp cards, then I don't think you should compare its value to a lottery grant
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:47 pm
by braincell
How many DSP chips does it come with? That was not clear from their website.
"a factor of 10 compared to the older 14DSP SCOPE-Board"
It has the power of 140 DSP chips? That seems like more than I need.
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:50 pm
by hubird
braincell wrote:Yes, when you win the lottery.
why would
your level of income be decisive for SC to determine the price of a product that they choose to make?
If SC makes a car but you have only mony for a bike, why would you blame SC for making a vehicle which you can't effort?
3000,- euro isn't that much btw, if you live in 'western' countries.
SonicCore is
alife man, awake

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:53 pm
by braincell
Apparently Creamware never had a big "hit" device in the past. Surely it can not all be blamed on bad marketing. Sadly, most musicians are poor, also you need a lot of ads to become well known. I don't think Sonic Core will be able to do this. It doesn't seem like they have deep pockets but maybe I am wrong. Who knows, maybe word of mouth will push it. The fact of the matter is that a lot of the money spent these days is going more and more to VSTi software and less to hardware even while there is more hardware available.
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:03 pm
by hubird
who knows what they will show in the future, if you like talking about a hit.
But you'll agree that they made a very smart move with the Xite machine.
It's not just one or the other product or potential hit, no they made clear the core busines is Scope as a complete studio.
This way they kept the Scope users with cards on board ('the platform is still alife and is continue'd'), and made a huge step to new Vista and OSX users.
Xite says: guys, we love our product and we will set it on the map again.
They couldn't have done better.
Btw, if you sell your cards you already have a financial start at least
and...there's always Frank's Plugiater, for those who need it essential and practical.
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:15 pm
by Gordon Gekko
braincell wrote:
It has the power of 140 DSP chips? That seems like more than I need.
well just imagine nth order feedback delay lines, n> everything we currently get or know

just an example.. I'm sure we'll witness the era of the goliath plugin

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:24 pm
by hubird
to me it's clear that the new power will resolve faster than we will like

New plugs/mixers will eat DSP like never before, remember Mehdi's comment about skipped features in the past.
But disregarding even this, I would like to be able to buy and use Warp's reverbs after all, with several instances also.
And I would like to use the Solaris plug much more, which now needs long loading times also for the presets, and uses much DSP anyway.
Then the ease of having some synths laying around in the project, adding some voices here and there (Solaris...), and there you go.
So, Xite for me? definitely, but not befor additional I/O's are added somehow.
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:32 pm
by Gordon Gekko
oh i'm buying one... I'll be standing in front of their building when the truck delivers the xites... and they better hand me one or else, I'll cut the main power, unplug phones, stand on the counter jumping up and down yelling 'HAND ME MY XITE YA SCUMBAGS'

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:54 pm
by hubird
I offer 200,- euro for your SRB

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:11 pm
by darkrezin
Regarding standalone use - I guess maybe it was wishful thinking on my part (although I'd be happy if even just the last used project was accessible). I think it occurred to me way back when Scope would crash sometimes - the DSPs would still be active and be 'doing their thing' but the software wasnt active in order to change what was on them. Or did I dream that this happened? It's hard to say, as I have a really bad memory and Scope hasn't crashed for years
Anyway I forgot that the computer OS is used for quite a lot of stuff (Async and also possibly other things in some devices like the time-stretching in the STS5K)... like I said - wishful thinking.
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:45 pm
by valis
Some of you guys have a lot of time on your hands, don't you?

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:29 am
by FrancisHarmany
How long has this messe thing been active and where are the specs ?

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:41 am
by kylie
40 minutes, no specs.
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:03 am
by King of Snake
braincell wrote:Sadly, most musicians are poor,
I really don't know how true that is. Most of the people I know who are into making music do it as a hobby and have a normal day-job. They are definitely not poor.
And if you're running a professional business as a studio or producer you're probably not poor either and 3000 euro isn't an impossible investment for a business like that.
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:47 am
by FrancisHarmany
Buncha fools this forum has....
they forget their invaluable experience with the system.....
maybe I am gonna earn a shitload of money doing Xite consultancy/installations/support in the next decade

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:55 am
by King of Snake
stardust wrote:Poor when you make music for a living is probably what was meant.
it's still the same generalisation. I see no reason to assume that a majority of people who make a living from music are poor.