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I try to find a line in humanism free from ideologistic rules. This seems not possible to achieve, so I think it's necessary to describe the ways a rule can lead when it's used. - To have a better idea of that rule and to know what happens if I use it too much. (in the sense of Pareto, who said (about): a good idea/rule can be led to a point when it does the exact opposite as intended)
Well, you're right Mehdi, but my ~800 users now eat up time..., just my jour fixe is left.

I am glad to find some philosophically-aware people in here
BTW, do you know what "philosophy" means?

a line in humanism free from ideologistic rules.

sense of humor ?

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: spacef on 2004-05-08 10:50 ]</font>

rule nr1:

On 2004-05-08 09:37, rodos1979 wrote:
... BTW, do you know what "philosophy" means?

something in the direction of 'to love wisdom' - from philos and sophos
...oh no sophisticated Lady... (Duke Ellington)

cheers, Tom

Well done Astro!

...a stophisticated lady who is a satin doll

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: rodos1979 on 2004-05-09 12:47 ]</font>

yes, philos (=a friend) sophia (=of Sophie's world). Unfortunately excluded from analysis of monetary circle. No human intentions included, as originally, when money was used just as a substitute to ease the exchange of goods. Very practical to transport. Now treated as a good. But it is not, it's still just a substitute and represents all we created with our work. To add a more sophisticated view to the subject money...
And the rules of distribution are those that the fatter you are the more you'll get. Hmm..., maybe it's allowed to think about the value of that rule. And maybe a rule like "for too fat ones a diet is good for the health" should be proposed?
Hmm, satin for sophia? why not. But a doll? Oh, no, more earthy please.

On 2004-05-07 09:48, Micha wrote:
..(in the sense of Pareto, who said (about): a good idea/rule can be led to a point when it does the exact opposite as intended)
...

as seems to be the english use of sophism and sophisticated in certain context

On 2004-05-10 07:02, Micha wrote:
... And maybe a rule like "for too fat ones a diet is good for the health" should be proposed?
...

too late - anything that passes the event horizon is inevitably attracted by the black hole...

cheers, Tom

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: astroman on 2004-05-10 07:32 ]</font>

So: long live the black hole (at least if it's mine)!

On 2004-05-07 09:48, Micha wrote:
... a good idea/rule can be led to a point when it does the exact opposite as intended)

Like the A-bomb, wich actually was created by peace loving people, who thought, that the bomb would prevent war, because any intelligent being would know, that starting an A-war ...

A simple example:
Lets say that you want to turn left... You turn left but keep turning left all the time. After 270 degrees of turning left, you are actually going right!!!

One should always try to find the "middle way". Overdoing things is always bad. The problem is that the "middle way" is always the MOST difficult. Because according to Aristotle, the middle point on a straight line, is just ONE simple point out of infinite points on the line.

yeah, like comunism was to defend people... "everybody is equal but pigs are more equal"