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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:19 am
by Yossarian
On 2006-04-17 03:02, voidar wrote:
On 2006-04-16 18:43, katano wrote:
btw, feedback is modelled, too. but you don't have to put your guitar in front of the speaker. it's kinda magic
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: katano on 2006-04-16 18:45 ]</font>
I haven't noticed any feedback modeling. How did you get that workign?
I'm also interested in this. I was very impressed by the feedback demos at the Softube website but I haven't seen any mention about it in connection with Dynatube.
If it's included in Dynatube that would probably clench it for me.
/Yoss
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:49 am
by katano
i'm not shure if it's implemented. fact is that i got some nice feedback, but could be that it came from the ibanez as200 and i played loud...
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:31 pm
by dehuszar
Did it feed through your monitors or are you running out to a cab-style device?
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:17 pm
by katano
through my monitors (event ps8 active)...
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:36 pm
by voidar
I get no feedback what so ever when using headphones.
However, it can sustain for ages.
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:47 pm
by voidar
On 2006-04-20 15:27, katano wrote:
The problem with the "mushy" sound is fact. but you can't compare the sound out of a mesa stack and a huge 4x12 cab with a miked guitar sound of the same stack. and played through your studio monitors with 6 or 8 inch wooooofer

clear you would never be able to get enough power and a tight bottom

question is: <b>how does the sound fit in the mix?</b> in my oppinion: very well with some tuning of course...
What I am saying is it was a bad decision made by them.
The choice of rectifier that is used affects tone and feel heavily, and this is modelled by Dynatube in a very real way.
If you don't believe me, try playing around with the spongy/bold and variac settings in Guitar Rig. Or better, play the amp.
I repeat, bad choice.
and dynatube is not an amp simulation but a MIKED amp and cab simulation. this brings me to the question: <b>what mik was used for modelling dynatube?</b>
Wrong, dynatube IS an amp simulation, with the option of cab/mic simulation. This is demonstrated by the fact that you can remove the cab/mic from the equation. And if that is not enough, the two are actually represented by two .mdl's in your applications directory. They even load in the SFP window.
What mike they used is up for questioning, but I feel the cab/mic modelling is great. In fact, I wish I could use it independantly.
BTW:
MB cab = Celestion V30's
JM cab = Celestion GT12-75's
my brother uses a mesa triaxis and 2:90 with a marshall 1960 cab. next question: <b>can I get the same sound with this rig like the one used in dynatube MB?</b>
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Depending on the version of triaxis there is a "rectifier" model which is basically a orange/vintage channel copy. Other than that it is mainly Mark-series sound.
The recto- and mark-series are very different beasts.
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: voidar on 2006-04-21 22:50 ]</font>
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:03 pm
by Lima
To get feed-back you can try to put a room-microphone and mix it with the guitar before enter in the amp-sim. You can use the level of the mic to control the feedback amount.
Obv, you have to use monitors, NOT headphones to have some feedback.
Just an idea

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:34 pm
by garyb
sounds like burnt tweeters...
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 6:10 am
by voidar
Or just get one of those Sustainiacs.