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Re: The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:45 am
by dawman
Well at least he has a purpose in life. The more Gloom and Doom he sells via a book the better, having Gold as a hedge bet is also wise, so there's an example of someone using the Media Parrots to help themselves. Lady GaGa constantly uses free advertisement from stunts.
Everybody uses the Media Parrots.
Whatever the sponsors talking points are, usually Liberal views, and worshipping of various Kings, Queens and elites, there's always room for more death, pestilience , mayhem and world ending scenarios.
Even Obama blames everything on Tsunamis, Earthquakes and the GOP.
THe GOP should be honored they are even mentioned with such powerful examples, as I think they are all men without penisies...
Re: The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:25 pm
by Nestor
next to nothing wrote:Out of curiosity, did someone edit my post instead of quoting it?

Ups....

that was me, sorry, I didn't realise, too late and tired...

Re: The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:07 pm
by Nestor
Re: The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:14 am
by dawman
They need a better photoshop artist.
If Israel was even worried about these wife beating/woman stoners, they would have been whacked by now.
Syria actually had a facility that was closer to what Iran posseses and they didn't hesitate.
I think they are simply bragging about what they don't have, just like Hussein did, but Bush was dumb enough to believe it or arrogant enough to want more Oil. He did fill our strategic reserves to historical levels for free though.
For a stupid Texan he sure got everything he wanted done.
And the brave Arab leader who vowed to fight to the death was found clinching a fistfull of cash and cowering in a hole.
So these brave Arab leaders pretty much dont practice what they preach, we found Khaddaffi crawling around in a sewer.
Does that mean Allah won't give him all of those virgins now...?
Facing death, all one can do is smile or just take a bullet by having the balls to attack head on.......
Our Carrier groups can roll right over these chumps. As much as I despise our sond and daughters being used as pawns by the Federal Reserve and it's global Bnaking partners, I would love to see the guys in Robes and towels hanging from the town square while their own people stone them....
Re: The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:32 am
by siriusbliss
Our beloved 'elected' (in quotes) political 'leaders' (in quotes) and 'media' (in quotes) NEED a war as a distraction from the corrupted 'election' season started yesterday. As a distraction from the bankster prankster economic manipulations around the world, and as a distraction (or excuse) to pass tyrannical legislation while sitting on a beach in Hawaii while your wife spends $4Mil to fly her dog from DC to Hawaii.
Welcome to 2012.
G
Re: The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:04 pm
by garyb
Re: The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:41 pm
by next to nothing
Re: The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:44 pm
by garyb
Re: The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:25 pm
by Mr Arkadin
siriusbliss wrote:Our beloved 'elected' (in quotes) political 'leaders' (in quotes) and 'media' (in quotes) NEED a war as a distraction from the corrupted 'election' season started yesterday. As a distraction from the bankster prankster economic manipulations around the world, and as a distraction (or excuse) to pass tyrannical legislation while sitting on a beach in Hawaii while your wife spends $4Mil to fly her dog from DC to Hawaii.
Welcome to 2012.
G
In the new 2012 edition of the Oxford English Dictionary, under the definition for "cynic" you'll now find just a picture of siriusbliss.
P.S. I completely agree with everything you just wrote.
Re: The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:27 pm
by Nestor
I would not feel tempted to compare Iran with any of the other Arab countries; it is a whole different story
Re: The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:54 pm
by garyb
they're Aryans(hence the name Iran) NOT Arabs.
Iran is Persia. it's not an Arab country, even though they're Muslim. in fact, they have a different form of Islam than the Arab world. but that's just me being pedantic....
Re: The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:51 pm
by Nestor
Sure. The whole point is that they are very different in every aspect to the Arab countries. They seem to be stronger too and rather sophisticated compared to the Arab countries and their today way of life. I cannot but have an opinion, but I do believe they already have nukes. Opinions of course, deserve all my respect, (even mine

) but I prefer facts, that’s why I say I’m “only” giving an opinion, because I cannot know it for sure, but I would deduce they already have not only nukes, but also a very high level war technology in general.
Re: The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:37 am
by garyb
well, Iraq, in spite of all the nomads and goatherds, was a pretty developed country too but you'd never know that now. still, it'd be a much bigger pain in the but invading Iran than Iraq, since Iran can't be starved out before the war as easily. military action against a fortified property hasn't changed much since the days of the walled city, just the size of the action has changed. right now is the siege and a siege can last for days, months or years depending on the scale of fortifications and resouces within the walls. this one might last decades. whatever. oceania has always been at war.
the best effect a nuke has, is the one it has on you when it's just sitting there. as horrible as a few nukes going off would be, it's nothing like the power of the threat of nukes going off.
Nestor, i hate to tell you this, but while it's good to complain and i think you should, these actions will happen or not in regardless of your opinion. we can protest it and vote on it all we want, and then an "expert" who knows better than anyone what humans need will make whatever decision they want. the lone exception is when such a major portion of the population gets wise to the game and really pissed off in a way that can't be ignored. then those who impliment decisions fear for their lives and do the right thing. unfortunately, public relations, being the study of human coersion, can usually get the mob moving in whatever direction is necessary, especially when large amounts of money are involved.
Re: The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:22 am
by dawman
I would be more scared of animals like this killing us.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBa0blUoE8U
Re: The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:59 pm
by next to nothing
Re: The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:21 pm
by Nestor
True Gary, I don't think I have the tools needed to change or stop this madness as a simple individual I am, very unfortunately, and even if we where millions together we would amount to “nothing” against the powers that dominate the world and their interests, anyway. Going farther, I think we are in trouble in a much important way in fact, at the “core” of what a human being is supposed to be... HUMAN.
I think that my main concern in reading and writing to you guys, following the latest news, giving some moments of contemplation to all this, it is the search for a sincere “understanding”, rather than ranting or complaining against the world. I want to be as conscious as possible of what is going on and what is going to happen in the following months with all this rising tension, trying truthfully to comprehend as much and as accurately as possible the reasons that are moving us behind it all, that is to say, “the human reasons” that brought us up to hear.
We can easily complain against “the others”, whichever they are (we also are “the others” for them), but at the end of the day, we are all into the same boat and have contributed to a world that is not working at its foundation. It is so much more than politics, so much more than economics; it is us, the human race which is wrong for a start. This is what I finally think as a conclusion. It is the whole thing which is wrong, our way of life full of envy, competition, consumerism without any respect to nature. For instance, USA has already lost about 90% of their honeycombs, which is terrible for life itself! At least, this is what I have heard in the news. Now in Chile, the very same problem has started, curiously, since Monsanto arrived to this land… We have lost the most essential values I think, the simplest but most important values as a race, even respect has been pretty much lost. When I hear about so many divisions telling “this” is against “that” “because of”, I can see that this is all false, because “this and that” are today into the same circle which is mankind. It is not a problem of cultures, politics, economics or whatever what I sense as the bottom or deepest reason for the social mess in which we live, but our lost essential human values. If we could really divide the world between the “good guys” and the “bad guys”, that would make sense, but this is not like that.
It doesn’t matter which country you may come from, we all have thieves, murderers, people lying as a way of life, workers extortion, violence, extreme nature abuse, poor education for some and extremely good for others, racism, classism, poison in our food, mind confusion or mind control through media, drugs, alcoholism, bad or horribly bad health care, very expensive live per-capita, all kind of unimaginable fights in the streets, mistreatment, stress, millions of accidents for luck of interest in the rest of mankind, and well beyond this, the worst, a tremendous unconsciousness. We are all in trouble! We, the people of the world, it doesn’t matter which is your country, or religion, or non-religious believe, or political party, or whatever, we, the people are in trouble.
Re: The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:39 am
by garyb
the problem is the the best theives, thugs, conmen and murderers are the ones that have always been in charge.
you are still being tricked, even now.
it is not a fault of humanity, that's what you are lead to believe, that it's your fault that the world is ugly. in one sense it is, because we are all living it, but that's the illusion. all the problems that you speak of are the result of the manipulation of human character. human behavior is the most studied aspect of nature as a whole and has been for quite some time. it's been known what it takes to move a mass of people since the beginning of civilization. in fact, this is what made civilization possible. late works on the subject include the works of Plato, a man who condensed the knowledge of the times into a few neat volumes. government is still run according to those principles as it was before his existence. the Bible(not that you should believe it) and the oldest book known to mankind "the epic of gilgamesh' state that this guy nimrod/gilgamesh, the mighty hunter of men, was the first king over all he could touch, figuratively and literally. the encyclopedia brittanica claims that he established religion and order and soldiers. the EB says the he founded "the idea of government through random acts of violence". the Los Angeles Times reported in a page 20 or so article, that when the soldiers in Iraq and secured the Iraqi National Museum from looters that the "treasures of Nimrod were still intact".
the funny thing about humans is that they really can't imagine anything that they haven't come in contact with already. "creation" is merely the rearranging of known quantities. once a human is indoctrinated into a reality, that reality is the only thing he can think of. that doesn't mean that there aren't other possibilities.
this isn't a problem with people at all. it's part of the reason that we can live under almost any conditions, from the most primitive, directly on the land, to the most brutal, a concentration camp/refugee camp/midieval city, to the easy modern city or completely artifical environment. it's also a weakness.
to blame the humans for their weaknesses is the same as crushing babies' heads and then blaming them for not fighting back. people aren't bad, in general, although they are encouraged to act badly, and some of them are very bad.
the is "evil" and humans are often influenced by it, but humans are not evil. they are the same as everything else on this earth and they belong here. it doesn't take that much more effort to "follow the golden rule". it doesn't matter what others are doing, or rather, what they are doing is no excuse. that's the salvation of humanity. the more people that are convinced to act like fools, the more that act like fools. the more that just do the little right things, the more the world gets right. there's no need for the big show or parade. it's just a matter of daily struggles with little things. doing right with those little things leads to big things being correct.
well, that's how it looks from this old guy's perspective anyway.
Re: The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:43 am
by Nestor
Thank you Gary for your thoughts, I understand them very well. Now, if we look for the establishment of the problem, where is it? Because we are talking about humans influencing humans, so the beginning of the problem remains still a human problem, right?
It is a fact that we are very suggestible entities, and coincidently, I have observed over and over again through my whole life that those who would state with great strength that they are not easy targets, are, in most cases, the ones to be easily influenced. Your statement is as real as a steinway & song piano into your feet! You can only cry out of pain but certainly not deny its existence!
Now, if being easily influenced it is not something to be blamed too hardly because you simply don’t know that this is happening, we will have to agree that the “core” problem for the influenced one would be ignorance. And from the side of those doing bad, would be their evil side, right? So then, evil here would mean “knowledge” or “know-how” but not necessarily used for the wellbeing of mankind, but rather for your own profit and benefit. Then, if ignorant people may be better than knowledgeable people, knowledge is not what makes the difference it is not what is substantially good, it only remains consciousness, the capacity to discern what is good and what is evil. That is why my ultimate main concern is consciousness. At the end of the day, we can say that mankind lacks a great deal of consciousness. To start a nuclear war is so stupid, that only unconscious people could do it. But we are living in an unconscious world; it is the most convincing explanation for me, and that’s why so many atrocities are possible and performed every single day.
Re: The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:35 am
by dawman
Without Washington DC violence and chaos would consume us.............false.
We could have avoided many wars and fake financial crisises.
I can live off of the land and still teach my kid more than he will learn in these Government funded day care centers.
I liked the days when we needed each other to trade goods and services and had neighborhoods where if someone needed help, we helped them, not some distant legislator who looks at us as if we are subjects.
Screw the House Of Lords and DC....let them go home and retire permanantly.
And if people around the world feel that they need to worship some King, Queen or God, let them.
Some folks enjoy being ruled over, on the other hand most Americans do not, even though tax paid day care centers are trying to convonce us how we are all equal and need the divine wisdom of the elites or we are doomed.
I kind of wish we could have them stripped naked, and let us hunt them with acidic based paintballs that burn and sting.
I'd have a blast chasing them on a dirtbike with a bull whip and a Paintball 30-06.
Re: The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:23 am
by Nestor
XITE-1/4LIVE wrote:
I liked the days when we needed each other to trade goods and services and had neighborhoods where if someone needed help, we helped them
Oh…, you make me get melancholic with that… Those where great days for sure, I can only dream about the serene pace and relaxed mind in which they lived their lives…