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@Micha: funny to read that the Gigabyte is really cheap. Here in the Netherlands the 8KNXP is about the same price or a bit more compared to the P4C800-E deluxe (about 220 Euro).
Did you run a MV test on these boards? Do you consider one of these boards your favourite, and if so, Why?
Sorry 'bout all these questions, but it doesn't happen very often that I get in contact with someone that uses both items that I have on my shortlist.
Hope you'll share some more of your experiences with us.
Thanx,
Rob
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Did you run a MV test on these boards? Do you consider one of these boards your favourite, and if so, Why?
Sorry 'bout all these questions, but it doesn't happen very often that I get in contact with someone that uses both items that I have on my shortlist.
Hope you'll share some more of your experiences with us.
Thanx,
Rob
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So another Vote for the Nforce-400 ...
How many instances of MVs were you able to run on that mobo? Or what about your own high end reverbs? I´m also looking for two new mobos right now and would appriciate more comments. Which PCI slots are you using and which IRQ´s did you assign to those cards (assuming you have more than one). Did you install your OS in ACPI or Standard PC mode? And what Ram are you using?
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How many instances of MVs were you able to run on that mobo? Or what about your own high end reverbs? I´m also looking for two new mobos right now and would appriciate more comments. Which PCI slots are you using and which IRQ´s did you assign to those cards (assuming you have more than one). Did you install your OS in ACPI or Standard PC mode? And what Ram are you using?
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Well I've made my choice: Asus P4C800 E Dlx.
It's equiped with a 2.8 P4, and 2x512M of ddr400 memory.
So still no comparision to make between the boards, but I do have a MV test:

The test is somewhat limited, as the 12DSP's kept me from loading more MV's. But I was able to run 15 of them, which I find quite impressive, and definitely enough to get things going.
As you can see I'm still running Win98SE (lite, that is). It has no problem running with 1Mb of RAM as long as you limit the vcache not to cross that 512Mb boundary.
BTW, I disabled HT in BIOS, and I run 2 regular ATA drives without raid.
As I said before, I cannot compare my board to others mentioned in this thread, but from what I experienced until now I can definitely recommend this baby.
Cheers,
Rob
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It's equiped with a 2.8 P4, and 2x512M of ddr400 memory.
So still no comparision to make between the boards, but I do have a MV test:

The test is somewhat limited, as the 12DSP's kept me from loading more MV's. But I was able to run 15 of them, which I find quite impressive, and definitely enough to get things going.
As you can see I'm still running Win98SE (lite, that is). It has no problem running with 1Mb of RAM as long as you limit the vcache not to cross that 512Mb boundary.
BTW, I disabled HT in BIOS, and I run 2 regular ATA drives without raid.
As I said before, I cannot compare my board to others mentioned in this thread, but from what I experienced until now I can definitely recommend this baby.
Cheers,
Rob
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I have the Pulsar 2 (with the IO's) in slot 4, which is connected to P_IRQ line 'E' on the ICH5 (the south bridge). This line is shared (physically) with the firewire device which I never use.
The XTC is in slot 3, connected to P_IRQ line 'H'. It has to share this line with the USB2 controller and the Promise SATA raid controller, both I don't use.
So the boards don't share physical interrupt lines with other devices in use. In the software (Win98) the Pulsar2 is on IRQ 10, together with the firewire device, the SMBus device and the USB 1.1 device (and 3 ACPI steering IRQ devices). That usb device was made to share by Win98, as it has to map 24 physical interrupt lines to an old table of 16 software interrupts. The XTC is on IRQ 5 sharing it with the firewire device.
And... it all works
Marvelous isn't it?
Oh, about assigning interrupts - it can't be done. All you can do is reserve interrupts for legacy non-PNP cards. You could of course do that, and then assign the interrupt of your boards manually in Win98. I see no advantage in doing so, so I never tried.
Cheers,
Rob
The XTC is in slot 3, connected to P_IRQ line 'H'. It has to share this line with the USB2 controller and the Promise SATA raid controller, both I don't use.
So the boards don't share physical interrupt lines with other devices in use. In the software (Win98) the Pulsar2 is on IRQ 10, together with the firewire device, the SMBus device and the USB 1.1 device (and 3 ACPI steering IRQ devices). That usb device was made to share by Win98, as it has to map 24 physical interrupt lines to an old table of 16 software interrupts. The XTC is on IRQ 5 sharing it with the firewire device.
And... it all works

Marvelous isn't it?
Oh, about assigning interrupts - it can't be done. All you can do is reserve interrupts for legacy non-PNP cards. You could of course do that, and then assign the interrupt of your boards manually in Win98. I see no advantage in doing so, so I never tried.
Cheers,
Rob
Once again, thank you very much Rob! That was a really detailed description.
Well, I`m just a bit concerned since so many devices must share IRQ 5 and 10. From my experience IRQ 5 and 10 are the most important IRQs.... those IRQs give you the best and most reliable performances whith Creamware cards. I wonder how things will turn out under WinXP where Hyperthread and such will lead to automatic assignments of those IRQs.... I think if necessary, HT must be disabled, just to give those cards the right IRQs. hmmm
Well, I`m just a bit concerned since so many devices must share IRQ 5 and 10. From my experience IRQ 5 and 10 are the most important IRQs.... those IRQs give you the best and most reliable performances whith Creamware cards. I wonder how things will turn out under WinXP where Hyperthread and such will lead to automatic assignments of those IRQs.... I think if necessary, HT must be disabled, just to give those cards the right IRQs. hmmm