well, it's close to christmas and we're all allowed to ask Santa a favour.
Here's mine Creamware should join with Hartmann
both companies are said to have a negative balance and as everyone knows from math that can only result in a big PLUS
Creamware's DSP wizzes plus the SFP software architecture plus Axel's superior design and Stefan's math magic might open new horizons.
Hans Zimmer could kick open one or the other door with pure fame and his relations
That must be a winner, or am I dreaming ?
If CW dies off, it could affect PlanetZ and that would be a bigger bummer to me I'd hate to see this forum go away. So let's all vow to keep supporting this forum even if CW goes away OK?
The way I see it, we're lucky they lasted this long. Bigger players have come and gone already. The software works more or less the way it's supposed to. I have every plug-in I need to run a business.
Assuming the hardware doesn't crap out, I could easily milk the software platform for another 4 or 5 years before I'd probably have to look for something else.
Partnering up with another entity isn't a bad idea and one that is obvious here in the US already. Taco Bell hooks up with Long John Silver. Kentucky Fried Chicken hooking up with Pizza Hut. Need I say more?
Have a great holiday everyone. Try to forget about all this for a few days.
Taco Bell hooked up with Long John Silver's? I'm surprised they don't have fish tacos yet.
The problem with a Creamware-Hartmann cross-breed is that the Neuron runs on a standard pentium processor. As we've all seen far too many times, native people will always be jealous of us dsp people so the union could never last.
On 2003-12-25 05:10, Eric Dahlberg wrote:
...As we've all seen far too many times, native people will always be jealous of us dsp people so the union could never last.
Stephan Sprenger is a leading edge DSP expert. Developers of that class are way beyond CPU jealousy - they use what's appropriate.
I just remembered that Keyboards once reviewed the Neuron soundquality as 'improvable'.
Purator could possibly add some real world impressions, I never had my hands on that thing, but I'm observing it with as much interest as the CW stuff.
There could be various synergetic effects for both sides - I didn't really think of a DSP based Neuron in the first place, and I must admit I hardly dare to speculate about 'what I would do' with those people's technology.
My respect for them is just too great for that.
But I began to like the idea of such a colaboration which originally developed from a 'worst case scenario' (how could the technology of SFP survive).
It would also make sense if both companies had a perfect balance - for us techie sound junkies
Well, so far as I know, the Creamware cards are pretty much stock cards from Analog Devices. The magic is in the SFP OS. So theoretically, if the cards could still be purchased, they could open-source the DP kit and the OS code. At that point the platform could develop at the leisure of it's rabid fans. I'm not entirely certain that's the best option in this case, but it would be a historic event for sure.
The major drawback I see is that the DSP level code is beyond most of us. We'd pretty much be slave to the code magicians who spoke SHARC. I doubt there are too many of them out there with lots of time to spare. But then again, I've been wrong before. What I would think as a better idea, would be financial support and cross-licensing between Creamware and other companies that are making outboard gear around the SHARC chips like the Liquid Pre by Focusrite, and the Sony Oxford Desks. Imagine what a boon that might be to make the SFP plugs available to owners of those types of tools. Given that most of the money is made, not through the boards, but the plugs, I think there might be a future there.
Traditionally, CW has tried to wrangle outside developers to the platform, but I don't see it as a negative thing that CW extends beyond its own borders.
It's already been proven by NOAH that the OS can run off of SHARCs. Wouldn't it be cool to have a Minimax running direct off of an Oxford through Vinco and the Oxford EQ with some PT Reverbs running Aux?
It just came to me, so I haven't really thought out any downsides to this, though I'm sure there have to be a few. Any thoughts?
Sam
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On 2003-12-25 23:56, dehuszar wrote:
Well, so far as I know, the Creamware cards are pretty much stock cards from Analog Devices. The magic is in the SFP OS.
The Creamware cards are not "stock" anything, they are unique Creamware designs.
You're right about the "magic" part, without the SFP OS, and especially the 500+ dsp atoms available on the platform, the cards wouldn't be worth anything...
I'm pretty sure we'll never see SFP/DP technology released to the public; Creamware have invested 100's of man-years in the platform, and whatever the price, it would be quite easy to sell it to another party...
That's a nice idea, Sam! Sony's already ported the Oxford plugs to TDM, RTAS, & Powercore so it would hopefully be an even easier task to port them to another Sharc system. Is Guy Eastwood still around? I bet he could do it for them. Creamware's copy protection method is more solid than TC's & Digidesign's, too.
Again, why not in reverse? As excited as I would be to have Oxford plugs ported to us, imagine the possibilities of extending SFP to the Oxford? Internal routing of busses to different plugs, running synths which could be controlled by motorized faders, and a midi controller...
If there were a dummy mixer plug designed to represent the board digitally, like the mackie desks, you could load your inserts, etc., put an OptiMaster/FinaLiza or some Sonic Timeworks Compression as inserts in the Master Channel chain. How effin cool would that be? And from the point of view of the Oxford desk people, you are just buying an extention to your own investment.
You start off buying the SFP system, like a PowerPulsar without the card, then you have Mix & Master packs, Synths & Sampler/FX packs, etc. I believe both the Liquid Pre and the Oxford desks use the next generation up of SHARCs; not the Tigers, but the ones that are pretty compatible. If CW could manage a clean upgrade path to those chips, they'd kill a whole mess of birds with one stone.
Don't have a Liquid Pre and want more than FX? Can't afford an Oxford desk? Well you're already like most people, buy our Luna/Pulsar/Scope cards and use the tools that the Professionals use!
Also, imagine being able to transfer your keys over to your new Oxford desk!
Obviously, some of this would be incredibly difficult to coordinate, but I think that TYPE of approach, could open up the CW platform to a whole host of other users, who may be interested in the software, and the idea, but don't have a need for another desktop system, etc., or don't initially have the confidence to drop for the whole platform, but might be willing to extend their current SHARC based rig to utilize it.
Just a thought,
Sam
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I'd hate to see this forum go away. So let's all vow to keep supporting this forum even if CW goes away OK?
