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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 1:54 pm
by Jngaelin
....i sat here infront of my DAW making music...and it hit me !!

I have to make a backup....NOW !!!

So as usuall, i opened all my projects one by one by one by one etc etc...

why ?

Well i make folders for every project with it's name on it.
Then i copy all the project files, preset files SAMPLES !!! etc etc..
Nice to have it all in one folder.

I usually make one folder called Cubase projects and one called SFP pros.

Now this is a mother of all pains in the ass.
I mean....
I use so many samples !!!

In cubase you have an option called "Save project to a new folder" !
LOVELY !!!

When doing this everything you've used is copyied to this "New folder". You don't have to work your ass of searching for every damned sample and recorded audio you've used.

So what i deepely wish for is this "Save project to a new folder" option.

Because SFP is what you would say a: "Open source" platform mabye inplemetning all "SAMPLE"-based devices would be almost impossible...
But atleast you could implement this "function" for the STS-sampler's series!

I really don't want to search my system for sample on stray when i backup my "grooves".

I strongly vote for a "Save project to a new folder" option in the SFP menu for the future upgrades on this beautyfull platform.
And when doing this all samples you've used (atleast in the STS-series samplers) will be save along with the project to this new "clean" folder ready for burning (or whaterver).

Push this thread to the limit !!! :smile:

Love you all

-Jngaelin

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:13 pm
by dehuszar
Or... since SFP is usually the first thing you open before you even mess with anything else, have a little template hierarchy page in the general settings tab, that way when you're just tinkering around and you hit on something, go nuts and then say, "damn, I should make a new project out of this..." you can 'save to new folder' and check the 'use template' box, causing the new folder with the snazzy working title to then have the (in my case) Cubase, SFP, DR008Kit, Presets, and Samples directories waiting to be filled.

Then when it asks if you want to save your preset changes to a new file, you can say yes, and point it to the preset folder. Now if the STS family were upgraded to create a 'kit' of sorts at preset saving time like the DR-008 can, I'd be super stoked!

The working title folder could then be dragged into your Nero CD/DVD backup tree and the whole thing gets backed up in one swoop.

God would that save me some time!

I generally work this way anyway, and just make a template directory which I then drag into a new copy, rename it whatever the working title is, and operate the same, but if there were some measures in SFP to automate this process, it would be so slick, the magazine reviewers would soil their union suits.

Sam

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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 2:42 am
by kimgr
I always create a folder structure for each song/project that I'm working on. I simply run a .bat file that creates the nessary folders, something like this:

mkdir "_NewProject"
mkdir "_NewProjectAcid"
mkdir "_NewProjectAcidXport"
mkdir "_NewProjectAudio"
mkdir "_NewProjectAudioMaster"
mkdir "_NewProjectAudioMix"
mkdir "_NewProjectAudioPreMix"
mkdir "_NewProjectAudioXport"
mkdir "_NewProjectLogic"
mkdir "_NewProjectLogicPlugInSettings"
mkdir "_NewProjectSFP"
mkdir "_NewProjectSFPPresets"
mkdir "_NewProjectSTS_Sampler"
mkdir "_NewProjectORGs"
mkdir "_NewProjectReaktor"
exit

Kim.

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:41 am
by Jngaelin
On 2004-01-23 02:42, kimgr wrote:
I always create a folder structure for each song/project that I'm working on. I simply run a .bat file that creates the nessary folders, something like this:

mkdir "_NewProject"
mkdir "_NewProjectAcid"
mkdir "_NewProjectAcidXport"
mkdir "_NewProjectAudio"
mkdir "_NewProjectAudioMaster"
mkdir "_NewProjectAudioMix"
mkdir "_NewProjectAudioPreMix"
mkdir "_NewProjectAudioXport"
mkdir "_NewProjectLogic"
mkdir "_NewProjectLogicPlugInSettings"
mkdir "_NewProjectSFP"
mkdir "_NewProjectSFPPresets"
mkdir "_NewProjectSTS_Sampler"
mkdir "_NewProjectORGs"
mkdir "_NewProjectReaktor"
exit

Kim.
This is a great and simple idea :smile:
So simple that you would think that implemeting this in SFP OS structure would be....simple !?!? :smile:
I mean atleast for "starters".

(i hope CW's listening) :smile:

Keep posting people

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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:44 am
by Jngaelin
On 2004-01-22 22:13, dehuszar wrote:

The working title folder could then be dragged into your Nero CD/DVD backup tree and the whole thing gets backed up in one swoop.

God would that save me some time!
I agree.
It would save us all alot of precious time !!!

We have to keep pushing to make it happen people :smile:

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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 8:44 am
by Immanuel
Hi Kim

How do you do that? It looks like a very nice tip, but I don't know how to do it. Do you use a special program for it, so not all your song are named New Project?

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 9:28 am
by at0m
Open notepad, insert the lines, save the file with .bat extension. Double click it. Then rename the _NewProject folder to anything you wanna call your project.

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 9:37 am
by Immanuel
I just tried that, and I got 15 folders all beginning with _NewProject. Renaming those would take more time than creating new ones. So I guess there must be something to it, that I don't quite get yet.

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 9:39 am
by Immanuel
Or is the trick to move the bat file to the desired folder before execution?

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:48 pm
by kimgr
Just put the .bat file in the root of your audio drive and execute it from there. You can move it to another folder later.
Did you copy'n'paste from my post or the quote longer down the thread ?
(That one's missing all the back-slashes.)

Kim.

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 3:06 pm
by Immanuel
Thank you Kim - good spotted - I did c/p from the quote.

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 3:19 pm
by Jngaelin
:smile:

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 8:10 pm
by dehuszar
There's got to be an @echo function or something to put a wildcard in place of the "_New Folder" so that if I typed "newfolder.bat bob" it would replace "bob" for "_New Folder".

Anyone do any scripting for Win2K/XP? If it still uses DOS commands like 95/98 I'll laugh my ass off.

Sam

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:14 am
by Neutron
Why dont you just make an empty dummy project with all those (empty) folders in it and then just copy them over when you make a new project folder.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:11 am
by DesDemona
Hi Folks,

Here's a script that will allow for you to specify a project name at the command line.

mkdir %1
mkdir %1Acid
mkdir %1AcidXport
mkdir %1Audio
mkdir %1AudioMaster
mkdir %1AudioMix
mkdir %1AudioPreMix
mkdir %1AudioXport
mkdir %1Logic
mkdir %1LogicPlugInSettings
mkdir %1SFP
mkdir %1SFPPresets
mkdir %1STS_Sampler
mkdir %1ORGs
mkdir %1Reaktor
exit


Hope this is of use

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:45 am
by Immanuel
DesDemona

I tried making it a .bat and an .exe file, but it didn't work.

Anyway, Neutrons suggestion is so obvious, I should have thought of it.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 3:14 am
by DesDemona
Immanuel,

Sorry it didn't work for you.

I copied the text into a file named folders.bat in C:

To run the script I typed at the XP Dos shell prompt "folders.bat testproj" and the folders were created like a charm.

Cheers
Des

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:55 am
by Jngaelin
I think this thread now belongs to the "Tips n Tricks" section!

Well the posts about making folders surtainly has to do with backup in some way...but i think we've strayed away from the original topic.

Mabye i should ask John Cooper to move this thread to the "Tips n Tricks" section. It belongs there now.

John ? :smile:

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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:20 am
by Immanuel
I already copied Kim's post to that section a few days ago.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:58 am
by Jngaelin
On 2004-01-27 11:20, Immanuel wrote:
I already copied Kim's post to that section a few days ago.
yes i saw that now :smile: when surfin around here at planetz but now there is more from
a new "fella" called "DesDemona". I just thaught we should move it before there are more users with helpull hints and tips :smile:.

This thread will get flooded.