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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 3:16 am
by Spirit
I've got one of those LCD screens with an inbuilt TV tuner (a Samsung 171MP). Unfortunately there's no video out except the standard computer monitor connection.

It's great to be able to display TV, video or DVD images in picture-in-picture mode (or full screen), but here's the problem: is there any way to capture the moving images ?

Standard screen capture products like Camstudio (excellent freeware) show the "normal" PC screen but not any TV or video imagery.

I've switched off "hardware acceleration". but with no effect.

I was wondering whether there's anyway to capture this, or even to somehow split the video input to the CPU box and capture it on standard video ? Better yet would be to capture internally as AVI...

A specialised problem - any clues gratefully received.

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 7:34 am
by spacef
i'm not a specialist but i've been told that Vega has capture tools that would allow this, may be.

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 1:57 pm
by garyb
i'd say that you could do this if you had a video OUPTUT on the tv,and a video INPUT on the computer(vidcard).usually these connection run the other way,so i'd guess "no".

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 5:53 pm
by astroman
obviously the unit is targeted as a display for people recording with digital tuners (and recorders) and so they left out the standard video output.
Imho that's a reasonable approach given the fact that analog TV tuners are close to nothing today - and the quality of captured pics would be pretty bad (with affordable gear).

I guess you're more after capturing the final 'screen-mix', are you ?
That would be fine, but requires a DVI encoder and a Firewire connection which would make the unit probably too expensive.
It's indeed a specialized app, as you mentioned.

cheers, Tom

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 11:04 pm
by Spirit
It's a strange one....

It's frustrating that I can see it all on the screen of the computer yet can't actually capture it onto the hard drive ! Maddening :eek:

Really I would have been better with a normal TV connected to a VCR, then just take the output of that through a digitiser (as suggested) and capture with Firewire.

Ah well, buy & learn :lol:


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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 11:54 pm
by astroman
well, if TV is the main objection then a card with a digital satellite (or cable?)receiver might apply.
I'm not exactly shure (because I didn't ask when I recently saw this in a shop) but those receive high quality mpeg streams which should be recordable to disk right from the box.
It was around 250 bucks and could do a lot of tricks with pay channels too ...

cheers, Tom

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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 7:53 pm
by hubird
you can't beat Astroman :grin:

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:15 am
by Spirit
Right :smile:

Thanks Tom. Getting into satellite is a bit beyond me at the moment. I'll just have to muse on it for a while...

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:32 am
by kimgr

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 8:18 am
by Spirit
Great link ! Thanks very much. I'll investigate this further :smile: :smile: