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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 11:05 am
by wsippel
Hi.
We just started an effort to port the SFP to Linux,
coordinated by Frank Hund of Creamware and myself.
This is a community-effort, so we're still looking
for some capable coders to join the Scope4Linux
project. If you want to help out, read on!

The idea is to create a common codebase for OSX and
Linux (the OSX port is almost finished). The Linux
driver should be easy to port, the SFP is already
mostly cross-platform. Two Linux hackers are part of
the project right now, with support from Creaware's
OSX coder.

What we need:
- OSX hackers, if possible with some skills in kernel
driver development (CoreAudio). The driver should be
easy to write, most of the work is done by the SFP in
userspace after all.
- Linux coders with good C++ skills, some knowledge
of wxWidgets (formerly wxWindows) would also be very
appreciated.

Not everything of the SFP will become Open Source,
because of the copy protection, for example. If you
want to join, it's a requirement that you would
accept to sign a NDA (non disclosure agreement).

To apply, just send an email with 'Creamware' in the
subject to:
willie(at)froq(dot)net

Hope to hear from you soon,
Willie Sippel

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 11:18 am
by borg
i'm not of any help at all, but this sounds just absolutely great!!!!!!!!!

good luck! and thanks... creamware on the go!

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:12 pm
by hubird
????!!!!
does this mean OS-X support can be expected soon?
that would be great really :smile:
I hope one thing: that crossplatform compatibility doesn't bring a deviating look of SFP on mac.
So far: super!

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:31 pm
by garyb
proper!

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:54 pm
by hubird
I still can hardly believe it...
desperately asking for it since...
stated by Frank Hund as 'not soon', and now they changed plans...
just like that?
it still isn't anounced on the CWA forum...??
Uff, don't wake me up, have a nice dream....Image

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:40 pm
by wsippel
@hubird
Yes, but we need an OSX coder with experience in
kernel-space drivers. Everything else is pretty much ready. :smile:
And don't be afraid - OSX users would mostly benefit if
we get SFP to work on Linux - the interface system of the
current SFP comes from Linux, after all (wx). See:
http://www.wxwidgets.org

@garyb
Thanks!

@hubird
Yep, just like that... And no, it's not a dream! :wink:
But we need some help...
Oh, and btw, I posted it on the CWA forum.

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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:49 pm
by Shayne White
Wow, this is great! I use Windows myself, but my brother uses OSX and is anxious for SFP to be ported to OSX. I'm sure a lot of people would love to see SFP on Linux too. I hope CW is going to introduce 3.3v cards for the G5??

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:35 pm
by snoopy4ever
Indeed a great news!! :grin: :grin: :grin:

I'm pretty interested on the Linux implementation of SFP.
But do you guys know what Audio Recording Software (Hopefully Cubase-alike) is out there for Linux???

Snoopy

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:40 pm
by Satosh
This is really really good news! I am really looking forward to / hoping for release of possibilities to use CW-cards and SFP in linux!

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:53 pm
by wsippel
@snoopy4ever
Yes, there is some software available for Linux
(it's not Cubase, but still usefull):

Rosegarden-4 - http://www.all-day-breakfast.com/rosegarden/
MusE - http://lmuse.sourceforge.net/
Ardour - http://www.ardour.org/
Jazz++ - http://jazzware.com/

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 4:10 pm
by petal
Great - if it weren't the soundcard for nerds before, it surely will be now.......... :smile:

And I mean that in a good sense!
Thomas :smile:

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 4:31 pm
by braincell
Sounds fantastic but we need sequencing and sound editing software to go with it, not to mention a midi interface. I'm kind of skeptical at this point but I hope it catches on.

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 4:36 pm
by marcuspocus
WOW!!!!!

coOl!!!

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 5:28 pm
by wsippel
@braincell

What exactly do you mean?
I don't think you speak of OSX, and there are quite a few
powerfull and usable tools available for Linux. Like I
said, not exactly as powerfull as Cubase or Wavelab, but
still pretty capable sufficient for day-to-day use.
I mentioned a few of 'em, so - what else do you need?

Edit:
And what do you mean by 'MIDI interface'?

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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 5:45 pm
by snoopy4ever
On 2004-03-19 15:53, wsippel wrote:
@snoopy4ever
Yes, there is some software available for Linux
(it's not Cubase, but still usefull):

Rosegarden-4 - http://www.all-day-breakfast.com/rosegarden/
MusE - http://lmuse.sourceforge.net/
Ardour - http://www.ardour.org/
Jazz++ - http://jazzware.com/
Thanks wsippel !!

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 5:58 pm
by wsippel
@Shayne White
I think there are 3.3V<->5V PCI adapters available - Tyan offers
those things. http://www.tyan.com
The M2037 may work...

@snoopy4ever
My pleasure. :wink:
There's even more, maybe you want to check
http://www.linux-sound.org

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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:03 pm
by scary808
This is some hot news! I've been dreaming of uniting the power of SFP with the power of Core Audio. Hopefully they can implement something like XTC mode for Mac but using AU instead of VST.

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:14 pm
by Mr Arkadin
Forget XTC man - let's get the much more flexible SFP to OSX first. This is very timely news for Maccers (i was even thinking of getting a PC soon, but now i can hold off for a bit).

Well done on all these posts we're seeing now on Planet Z from the all new CWA - it's what everyone's always wanted for so long: communication.

Mr A

PS Wish i could help but i know bugger-all about Linux.

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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:21 pm
by braincell
I'm just saying that I need Cubase and wavelab although I would consider using 2 computers linked together with ADAT and word clock. I'll wait until you guys do it first though as I am anticipating problems.

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:29 pm
by Mr Arkadin
braincell wrote:
I'll wait until you guys do it first though as I am anticipating problems.
and you usually being so optimistic braincell :wink: