Vocodizer in XTC?

Nisse · Post by **Nisse** » Mon May 10, 2004 6:24 pm

Hi guys, its me again with another newb XTC question.

The Vocodizer, XTC or no? If no, any unofficiall solution? (like the one for using Modular patches in XTC)

I fired up my system today in XTC mode, and lo and behold! Everything seemed to work. All my synths were there (even my trusty Zarg Ambient) and all the effects were there. But not the vocodizer. I thought XTC mode officially supported all Creamware stuff except mixers, STS samplers and modular?

Kenf · Post by **Kenf** » Tue May 11, 2004 2:24 am

Hi
I have tried the Vorb in XTC mode with no luck. I could not get the audio input routed. I could get the interface to appear and midi was connected but no more.
Regards
Kenf

Post by **Guest** » Tue May 11, 2004 2:22 pm

I checked this for you and found that I have the Vocodizer as part of my XTC effects
I don't use XTC mode at all but if it is there then it works, right?

check your VST plugin information (SX) and make sure you updated all your creamware ones by checking them and then click update.

[ This Message was edited by: antar on 2004-05-11 15:37 ]

Nisse · Post by **Nisse** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:06 pm

Hi Antar,

I did just that (checked and updated) but still cannot load it in any way. Not as a vst instrument nor as an audio plugin.

Edit: I also use SX 2.01.

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[ This Message was edited by: Nisse on 2004-05-11 18:07 ]

Post by **Guest** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:55 pm

Hi,

marcuspocus I stand corrected.

thank you

create a copy another .dll and rename it vocodizer.dll and put it in the

C:Program FilesSteinbergVstpluginsXTC

[ This Message was edited by: antar on 2004-05-11 19:33 ]

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Tue May 11, 2004 6:02 pm

What???

Nah... maybe making a copy of another .dll from the VstPlugins/XTC folder any renaming it Vocodizer.dll would work better...

But i don't think that's the problem here. I think it a bug in the host or xtc (don't know which one) that a plugins considered as a vsti can't have inputs... Correct me if i'm wrong on this, but that what i guessed

Nisse · Post by **Nisse** » Tue May 11, 2004 7:50 pm

Ah, the trick that was described on how to use modular patches in XTC, isnt it?

Thanks for your input Mr. Pocus

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Tue May 11, 2004 11:44 pm

Having both audio In- and Outputs, Vocodizer and Vorb should be in the VST effects, and not in VSTi synths list. Don't know how to migrate from one to the other type, maybe using a .dll from a file belonging to the type?

Kenf · Post by **Kenf** » Wed May 12, 2004 2:19 am

Hi
As I said I have tried this but the problem I couldn't solve is how to connect the audio in? It is normally connected to a 'track' and I can't see anyway of connecting it outside SFP. I did try leaving a Vorb connected inside my xtcproject but that didn't work.
I did ask John last year about the Vorb and he said there were no plans for a XTC version.
Regards
Kenf

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Wed May 12, 2004 3:54 am

Like i said this effects/vsti thing is a bug, i'm pretty sure.

Like is anybody was able to use the sidechain input of a compressor in XTC?

Same problem...

Kenf · Post by **Kenf** » Wed May 12, 2004 5:09 am

Hi Marcuspocus
See what you mean now....

rhythmaster · Post by **rhythmaster** » Wed May 12, 2004 7:35 am

I think this was posted already before:

How to use the Sidechain of a compressor in XTC-Mode Cubase:
Load a Multi-FX in the insert-slot where you want to use the compressor. Insert the Compressor in a Multi-FX slot it.

Load another Multi-FX to an insert of another track (the desired sidechain track).

Now you can select the Multi-FX Out in the compressor-sidechain-slot of the sidechain track.

You probably have to try this twice because the Multi-Fx Out where the compressor is attached is also displayed.

I hope I could help.

Harry

Kenf · Post by **Kenf** » Wed May 12, 2004 9:16 am

Hi rhythmaster
Great tip. I have just tried it with just one MultiFX. I selected sidechain then rightclicked in the box and got a list of VST outputs.
Thanks
Kenf

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Wed May 12, 2004 9:46 am

Great tip rhythmaster.

I'll try tonogh, maybe that work also with Vocodizer?

Nisse · Post by **Nisse** » Wed May 12, 2004 9:55 am

Wow, this thread sure took an interesting turn. I´ll have to try that.

Allthough I still cant seem to load the vocidizer in any way. (its checked in the list and the plugin info is refreshed)

What is this multi FX unit thingie you´re talking about?

Kenf · Post by **Kenf** » Wed May 12, 2004 10:46 am

Hi Nisse
The MultiFX is a effects 'holder' it chains together 8 FXs. You should find it in the 'Others' folder when inserting into your sequencer mixer.
Kenf

Nisse · Post by **Nisse** » Wed May 12, 2004 8:36 pm

Thanks everyone!

I made a quick test as soon as I got home from work, and I was able to route any audio track in SX into the vocodizer as long as said audio track contained a Multi FX insert. Multi FX out came up in the analysis/synthesis in box.
I only had a short time to check (I work nights, and need some bloody sleep, hehe) but to me it looks like there should be no problem using Vocodizer in XTC mode. Yay!

Nisse · Post by **Nisse** » Thu May 13, 2004 7:35 am

Hm. . it seems I was a bit premature on my XTC Vocodizer ramblings yesterday. Thats sleep deprivation for ya, hehe

I did indeed see the Multi FX out in the little input selection box in the Vocodizer, but trying to select them results in an error message rambling about incompatible pads. I did however manage do get a proper analysis signal in, and also midi. Insert the vocodizer on an audio track, and that audio track automatically comes in as analysis. Routing midi into the vocodizer is also handled the normal way in SX.
Now I just have to figure out how to get an external synthesis signal into it, allthough its quite operational with the internal one.

Kenf · Post by **Kenf** » Thu May 13, 2004 3:17 pm

Hi Nisse,
All sounds really promising!
How do you insert the Vocodizer into an audiotrack? Have you it showing as a effect? I have tried again unsuccessfully with the Vorb. It appears that the Vocodiser has 'XTC' as an advantage over the Vorb. This is a disadvantage for me, I have been using the Cubase Vocoder instead of the Vorb on occasions recently.... shame....
If you are listening John? Any chance of an update??
Regards
Kenf

Nisse · Post by **Nisse** » Thu May 13, 2004 3:33 pm

Hiya Kenf.

The vocodizer can be used as an insert effect only. You open an audio track, and load it as any other insert.

If you do the "rename dll file trick" to get your vorb into the sequencer, maybe you can try to use it in this way?