PCI Express products are now available!

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:31 pm

Multiwave (the place I usually shop at) is now selling PCI Express-based motherboards and video cards. I guess other retailers are as well. I wonder how long it'll be before CWA jumps on the bandwagon?

Shayne

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:25 am

I'm sorry, but hope they never do.

I'll never buy another pci card except for a 30bucks firewire card or something similar...

Future is outside of the damn pc box.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:43 am

external is the way to go - no more twisting and screwing on cases, no heat or transportability problems

totally OT : a new worker in our office asked about her new PC (which is on order) how fast will it be ?
I answered that it's gonna be a 2.4 Gig Celeron and asked in return: aside fron the screen - how's the Mac you're working on now ?
Answer: it's pretty fast...
Well, that's an iMac Rev 2 at 233 MHZ, the original bondi blue model

that about perceived speed - she's doing office apps, internet browsing and email

cheers, Tom

spoimala · Post by **spoimala** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:58 am

First generation PCI Express products are not as fancy as it seems.
The same than with SATA drives.
Normal products with "adapter" on top.
Or pure PCI Express product, but the host isn't taking the whole power out of it. Wait a few months

valis · Post by **valis** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:47 am

Most of the audio industry (outside of software companies) tend to lag behind the bleeding edge curve by at least a year or two (sometimes a lot longer).

PCI Express also seems to be in the confusing stage as a consumer product at the moment as there are 1x, 4x and 8x slots and devices (along with 8x and 16x graphics slots) with not much clarification on what the different 'sizes' give in terms of performance. Most motherboards only have a graphics slot at the moment, but those that do have more than a graphics slot might only have a few small ports. When things solidify into a standard then its usually a few quarters before products start emerging based on that.

At least that's my observation.

yasuk · Post by **yasuk** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:37 am

I'd rather see CWA offering firewire audio interface than pci-x or pci-ex.

Post by **garyb** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 12:46 pm

i don't need another case(the pc has already got one) and i doubt that firewire will pass 72 inputs of audio into that pc. i also don't need the extra cable(length). i'd rather have cards....

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:53 pm

Gary, i need portability, you don't, obviously.

If cw stay with PC card format, i can't use creamware no more.

If they go external, i can, and you too, is that cable really that annoying?

And what's the need of 72 audio channels into PC? Are you recording 72 track at once that often?

If creamware did it right, the audio wouldn't even need to reach the pc except to record it on disk...

And to the contrary of what your thinking, firewire CAN transfert 72 audio channel at once

That's with FW1 at 400mbit/s, now imagine with FW2 with 800mbit/s.

Look at tascam dm-24 + their fw cards. It can transfert 24 audio channels at 24bits/96khz ins and outs simultaneously!

I can't even reach this with my actual Luna2+Pulsar1!!! Maybe with a Powerpulsar?

So you're saying that because of an extra wire, they shouldn't do firewire? What about your A16U? Imagine if this WAS your 15dsps card...Even if it was 2U high like someone suggested, is the wire still a problem? There is no extra wire there?

Just for info, i read by someone else that firewire would induce more latency, that false. I actualy have bought a fw audio device, a really nice one, the tascam FW1884. And guest what... Same or better latency that my luna2. 18ins/18outs simultaneously with 24bits/96khz at 1ms... No sweat, i even use it at live gigs

Well, couldn't invest in Powerpulsar yet because i can't use it on the road, and god know i really would like to. I'm looking every days at d-mute super cool price on powerpulsar's... Damn, i wish they would be portable.

All i'm saying, is by going external they open up a whole new market, while if they stay with PCI cards (or similar) they are cutting themselve from it.period.

I know they would cut ME out of their stuff...

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Post by **garyb** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:52 pm

persuasive arguments.....

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:01 pm

LMAO

Damn, allways the exact good words in your replys !

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:57 pm

like recording on the beach under moonlight with a laptop, coupla mics and sfp to go

that'd be it

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:26 pm

there's a coupla things on the beach under moonlight I can think of, but a laptop would be rather misplaced...

cheers, Tom

Post by **hubird** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:25 pm

ts ts ts...

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:48 pm

need holidays !

Post by **hubird** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:28 pm

you could install a sea screensaver on it...

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:21 am

what's going on here, astroman does dirty allusions? wtf?

right. Sorry, I should have wrote:

like recording on the beach under moonlight with a laptop, coupla mics, sfp to go and a donkey

that'd be it

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:25 am

a donkey or a sheep?

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:28 am

both, he did suggest "a coupla things"

ahem, time to get back to work

wayne · Post by **wayne** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:29 am

On 2004-08-11 05:25, marcuspocus wrote:
a donkey or a sheep?

Yep, transport, wool & feta would be very handy

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:50 am

On 2004-08-11 06:29, wayne wrote:
On 2004-08-11 05:25, marcuspocus wrote:
a donkey or a sheep?

Yep, transport, wool & feta would be very handy

wool & feta... is that a new plugin?

oh, must be the one used to disguise cheesy songs

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