Need advice

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 6:39 pm

Many of my friends have old cassette tapes that they would like to copy on CDs or DVDs. Would I violate the Copyright laws if I made one copy for them? How long is the copyright valid on those cassettes?

I could clean'em up (digitaly) for them too, compress them, etc...

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Post by **hubird** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:01 pm

as long as it's just private...

ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:47 am

No problem as long as it stays in private use, no resell etc. as Huub said.
But you can earn money for your restauration work, of course.

A hint to clean up the tapes.
If you use a plug with a fingerprint methode, record a small piece of "silence" just few secs. before the music starts, because a tape deck and the tape itself has their own running noise.

Give x-noise from waves.com a try, if you use native plugs like vst. You can download demo versions at waves.com -> downloads -> restauration bundle. I used it for my tape restaurations.

Edit: A copyright belongs always to the artist/composer or to the company where the artist sold his copyright to.
After an artist died the protection period of time can last up to 75 years

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BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:35 am

Thanks.
Chris, how does the TripleDAT (the old version) Denoise plugin compare with Waves' plugin?

ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:22 pm

On 2005-01-13 10:35, BingoTheClowno wrote:
...how does the TripleDAT (the old version) Denoise plugin compare with Waves' plugin?

Well, I can´t compare them, because I haven´t got Triple DAT. Maybe somebody with the Triple DAT can help here?

Post by **garyb** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:28 pm

if you mean osiris, it compares VERY well. it is available stand-alone. i obviously wouldn't buy it just to do this, especially if you already have waves, but osiris is worth owning if you need to do other restoration as well.

mampfred · Post by **mampfred** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:13 pm

FYI
- if the original was illegal (bootleg..) copying is illegal, too.
- if the original was legal, copying is legal for private use (family,friends), this means no redistribution. what 'private use' exactly means depends heavily on your country. up to 7...20 and more copies can be completly legal.

- mampfred -

Herr Voigt · Post by **Herr Voigt** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:06 pm

A digital copy of copy-protected CDs is not allowed, but an analogue! I've read this in the german mag c't. If you use good and short cables and if you have so much time to copy in real-time, the difference between digital and analogue copy could be almost imperceptible.

Post by **hubird** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:40 pm

which brings up the interesting question if you're allowed to put those analog copy files on the internet for free download...?

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:06 am

of course not...

what Herr Voigt mentioned isn't even related to the content of the disk. If the publisher marks an item as 'copy protected', this is an (obviously legal) expression that he doesn't want the media duplicated and the customer has to respect this.
Reads absurd, as lots of legal stuff...

A copy via analog output (that qualifies in numbers as 'personal' use) has to be legal since there are fees on gear and media for exactly this purpose.

With a reasonable pricing there wouldn't even be a discussion on the subject...

cheers, tom

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:29 am

On 2005-01-13 10:35, BingoTheClowno wrote:
...how does the TripleDAT (the old version) Denoise plugin compare with Waves' plugin?

cannot comment the Waves version, but I have the original Osiris with TripleDat and repeated the examples from the XP package with my version.

Osiris XP is noticably better and also better as the Algorithmix budget line.

Even had a phonetalk with the developer, who mentioned that the denoiser part in XP is even better than the declicker/decrackler (I'm mostly interested in vinyl restoration), but of course Osiris XP isn't intended as a competition of their $K products...

Probably this is not related to sound quality in the first place, but to versatility, number of functions and workflow.

Imho it's a good value package (with the 3 DSP board) and since it can do it's job on the fly (you have to real-time record your source anyway) it's rather convenient.

cheers, Tom

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