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Oh my god!!!

this this could be evil

Messiah

I don't think so...

A decent guitar stays in tune pretty well IMO.

its not the staying in tune...
its the endless tuning posibilities, even within one song.....or programing it to drop the E to a D when req. Or even a long pass at tightening or loosening the tension, in different ways, across all the strings, and still riffing with the thing.....OMG

I tells ya this baby could be awesome


Me$$iah

Some day all electric guitars will do this. Fantastic!

I remember hearing stories about what popular guitarists said when the solid body guitar first came out. Most of them hated it. Guitarists are just full of shit.

nah, it's just too much trouble. guitars are complicated enough as it is. nifty gadget, though....

I thought the idea is for there to be less trouble.

On 2005-10-14 13:00, braincell wrote:
I thought the idea is for there to be less trouble.

sure and computers make your life easier!

for the 4 or 5 guys who use hundreds of obscure tunings, or those who know little about the instrument who just want to use 1 finger, it'll certainly be a boon...

Well I gotta say,

Im a guitarist, its my main instrument, and without wanting to sound like ego guy. Im pretty damn good at playing the thing. Ive been playing longer than I havnt. And this new guit whilst Im sure it'll never replace my baby..an Ibanez560 that Ive had for years, and maybe it was made just to make things simple so anyone can play guitar. I still believe that the sonic possiblilties that somthing like this could open up, is incredible.
I mean on a pro level, who needs a guit that can tune itself, surley thats for beginners. But I like to think of the potential of such a machine, to enhance or add new things to my arsenal, like a good FX box.
And then there the pure ease of live playing, if you play using a variety of tunings throughout the set.

just my personal
cheers
-Messiah

As usual, each to their own........Still gotta get what's in your heart and soul to your fingertips.

i bet that thing is a tone killer like a kahler or floyd rose trem. i bet it makes a guitar sound thin and shrill so that it only sounds good when distorted or with a bunch of chorus.....

when you have 20 songs with 10 tunings, it'll be the best thing ever. everyone else who buys one will put it in the case in the corner like their '90s metal axe(can't sell them any more in my part of town anyway. all anyone wants these days are good strats and les pauls). as always, anyone who can put something like that to good use, should, imho, just like their chapman stick.

Something to remember is that some very different tunings change the overall tension-weight of the string system on the neck and this affects the neck's curve and thus the intonation of the instrument more than you would imagine.
Usually professional guitarists that make a large use of alternate tunings have different guitars for different tunings.

Let alone that as I see it it's a tone killer for sure....

Naturally a new guitar design, with more structural rigidity, like some synthetic stuff used or particularly stable necks like in the hi end Ovations, a better autotuning bridge design made exactly on that specifical instrument, can make things different. I think it's a nice idea, but a first step needing evolution.

On 2005-10-15 20:16, Me$$iah wrote:
...But I like to think of the potential of such a machine, to enhance or add new things to my arsenal, like a good FX box. ...

well, an FX box for almost 4k bucks...

in particular with Scope I'd rather vote for a midi add on in this context.
It will have latency, surely, but the range of available sound variations is so extensive that you'll easily find lots of inspiring ones.

I'm not talking about trying to capture the guitar playing expression over into the data domain, as for that you already have your real instrument.
But backing (and to complement) it with a virtual player who's always (kind of) in sync with what you do can be fun. The final result is not necessarily predictable in full depth, but it works imho (and that's part of the fun, too).

I've recently been surprised by John Bowen's QuantumWave with it's endless textures in this context, but any of the 'better' Scope synths will do, let alone some Modular/Flexor stuff

don't forget you'll get something in the range of a 28 DSP setup for the price of the tuna-gimmick (or a dedicated DAW with half of the chips)

cheers, Tom

eehhh, it's pretty cool, i guess!

the guy said it doesn't effect tone, but then he says that it increases sustain, so...well, graham and jimmy like it...i still don't see how you can take out half the wood to put in motors and a "computer" and a touch pad and have the guitar stay the same... nifty gadget and handy, still.

braincell wrote:
Guitarists are just full of shit.

Just for you BC:

Bend it
Straighten it
Double it and
Send it

I wonder why nobody plays "Air Keyboard".

What strings you use affects the tone. The amp you pick alters the tone. It's not a Stradivarius for god's sake. Gee I wonder if using chapstick will affect the sound of my kazoo?

On 2005-10-16 13:08, braincell wrote:
It's not a Stradivarius for god's sake.

oh no?

On 2005-10-16 13:08, braincell wrote:
What strings you use affects the tone. The amp you pick alters the tone. It's not a Stradivarius for god's sake. Gee I wonder if using chapstick will affect the sound of my kazoo?

I have the slight suspect you're not a guitarist...just an impression....

On 2005-10-14 09:26, braincell wrote:
Guitarists are just full of shit.

What! Even Gillian Welch & David Rawlings?